From: Mel on
FWIW, I've been using Google Groups for years and have been happy with
it for the most part. (I followed it over from when it was Deja-news
and Google improved it a lot.) I mainly like the ability to search.
But I liked the immediacy of postings with seeing the Usenet group
directly with a browser such as Outlook express. So, I used one for
searching and the other for reading and posting. But now that AT&T
dropped newshosting <boo!!!>, I can't get it directly. I'll have to
pay a third party provider such as GigaNews if I want to do that (or
dump AT&T).

Anyone with suggestions for a good newsgroup provider? <g>

-Melina

On Dec 9, 8:22 am, Dale Fye <dale....(a)nospam.com> wrote:
> Steve,
>
> I recognize that the web app is not the preferred method for viewing the
> microsoft news groups.  Unfortunately, I'm unable to use Outlook Express or
> the 2007 equivalent (don't even know what it is) at the office, so I'm stuck
> with the web.  When the MS web site gets like this, I frequently turn to one
> of the other web based new groups.  You would think that MS could get their
> office/community site working properly.
>
> I used to be able to search by my name and at least see my posts from that
> day at the top of the list.  Now, I'm lucky if that days posts even show up
> in the search results.
>
> I've also never understood why they cannot sort the search results by date.  
> I understand that this takes a little bit more processing, but for usability,
> I really hate having to browse through search results that are not sorted by
> date.
>
> ----
> Dale
>
> "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>
> > If you're viewing this in your web browser, you're missing out.
>
> > Because of a problem in the web forum software, many of the messages
> > (including a large percentage of the answers to your questions) don't appear
> > here.
>
> > To see ALL the questions and answers, click here or copy and paste this url
> > into your browser:
>
> > news://msnews.microsoft.com/microsoft.public.powerpoint
>
> > If that doesn't work, try visit this page for other options:
>
> > The PowerPoint Newsgroup
> >http://www.pptfaq.com/FAQ00275.htm
>
>

From: Steve Rindsberg on
In article <5b9ff6ee-8e11-4da7-9d28-
64a145ab758c(a)h40g2000prf.googlegroups.com>, Mel wrote:
> FWIW, I've been using Google Groups for years and have been happy with
> it for the most part. (I followed it over from when it was Deja-news
> and Google improved it a lot.) I mainly like the ability to search.
> But I liked the immediacy of postings with seeing the Usenet group
> directly with a browser such as Outlook express. So, I used one for
> searching and the other for reading and posting. But now that AT&T
> dropped newshosting <boo!!!>, I can't get it directly.

That shouldn't be the case. As far as I know, the ISP I connect to the net
through offers nothing in the way of newsgroups. I just connect directly to:

msnews.microsoft.com

That at least gets you into all of the MS newsgroups. And since that's where
the messages are really hosted, you'll get less "latency" than by hitting a
news host that replicates messages from here periodically.




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From: Steve Rindsberg on
[snipsnip]
>
> Steve, what newsreader are you using? I dumped mine since loosing
> Usenet but formerly had NewsRover. I still have Outlook Express
> however. They require an NNTP server, so how are you putting an
> address directly in?

I use VirtualAccess but used OE before that. As far as I remember, the setup
details were fairly similar.

For NNTP server, I enter msnews.microsoft.com

> FireFox and IE stand still when I enter the
> address directly too. Clicking the link starts my web browser, which
> does no good, of course.

If the browser has a built-in newsreader (as Opera does, for example) you can
enter news://msnews.microsoft.com and it'll get a list of groups from the
server, let you choose which you want to read/subscribe to.

Firefox and IE don't have newsreaders built in. If you have a client
registered as the default newsreader (ie, news:// protocol handler) on your
system, entering the full news://whatever URI will launch the newsreader.
Just tried it in Firefox on a different computer, for example, and it pops OE
up. Firefox seems to depend on the system defaults; IE lets you specify the
newsreader (Tools, Internet Options, Programs, Newsgroups: (pick 'n choose).

[Dang. Read your later msg. You've already got it sorted. Hate to see all
this deathless (death-dealing?) prose go to waste so I'll leave it anyhow.]

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