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From: Stan Hoeppner on 30 Oct 2009 22:30
stephen2eq(a)yahoo.com put forth on 10/30/2009 7:43 PM:

> It is just that I would prefer that non-technical guests staying at my house not have to learn to start an xfce-term and type 'pon' before they can use the Internet. If it comes to that I would make the machine boot up into Windows by default, but that would be an opportunity lost with regard to showing people that there is an alternative.

What about guests who arrive with laptop in tow, expecting to hop on the
net at your place just as they would at a hotel? Even the cheapest
hotels have free wireless internet access these days, as do many other
venues, including various coffee shops, schools, churches, etc. Join
the 21st century already. ;)

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From: stephen2eq on 30 Oct 2009 22:40
I have run pppoeconf as root, it is one of the things I tried over the last few days. I just did it again, since I couldn't remember what happened the last time. It just says no working Ethernet card can be found, not surprising really since I don't have an Ethernet card. Am I missing something here?

--- On Sat, 10/31/09, John Hasler <jhasler(a)debian.org> wrote:
> Then why don't you just run pppoeconf as root, follow
> instructions, and
> be happy?  Why do you want to complicate things?





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From: Stan Hoeppner on 30 Oct 2009 22:50
stephen2eq(a)yahoo.com put forth on 10/30/2009 9:39 PM:
> I have run pppoeconf as root, it is one of the things I tried over the last few days. I just did it again, since I couldn't remember what happened the last time. It just says no working Ethernet card can be found, not surprising really since I don't have an Ethernet card. Am I missing something here?

Maybe I missed something in a previous post. If you don't have
ethernet, then how are you connecting to the dsl modem? USB?

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From: stephen2eq on 30 Oct 2009 23:20
--- On Sat, 10/31/09, Stan Hoeppner <stan(a)hardwarefreak.com> wrote:
> Maybe I missed something in a previous post. If you
> don't have
> ethernet, then how are you connecting to the dsl
> modem? USB?

Yes USB to ADSL modem to POTS. I think your suggestion of buying a router was still valid however, I found several recommendations to do this when I was Googling to find out how to get pon and poff working. However I was and am determined that I shouldn't need to buy any more hardware than Windows has needed, and I felt vindicated in this when I did get pon and poff working.

With that I now have almost everything I want, so the case for buying more hardware is even weaker now than it was when I started out. I could even put 'pon' in the initrc file (or whatever it's called these days), or perhaps in users' .profiles, so that nobody would need to type it explicitly. However I would prefer to get the 'demand' feature working - since it is supposed to work, and it is cooler - and I also still like the idea of having a GUI dialog. Maybe it's because I have used Windows for too long and have developed Stockholm syndrome, but I like the way it lets me see, and approve, connection attempts.





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From: H.S. on 31 Oct 2009 00:30
stephen2eq(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> It is just that I would prefer that non-technical guests staying at
my house not have to learn to start an xfce-term and type 'pon' before
they can use the Internet. If it comes to that I would make the machine
boot up into Windows by default, but that would be an opportunity lost
with regard to showing people that there is an alternative.

How about this:

1. Make all users, or selected users if you wish, belong to the
'dialout' group.

2. Verify that pon can be initiated by "dialout" group users (is it so
by default?).

3. Make a shortcut on everyone's desktop to call the pon command ("sudo
pon dsl-provider").

4. Advise users to click on that short cut if they want internet access.

5. A similar shortcut for "sudo poff -a" to the connection to off.


I admit it is not something similar to the GUI based pon choice upon
detection of internet traffic, but it is at least fast and easy to setup
while you wait for a better solution.

Regards.






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