From: eric gisse on
Robert L. Oldershaw wrote:

> On May 31, 12:51 pm, "Greg Neill" <gneil...(a)MOVEsympatico.ca> wrote:
>
>> > (1) I can explain all parameters that I use. They are not arbitrarily
>> > chosen to reproduce the data.
>>
>> Then do so.
> -------------------------------
>
> http://journalofcosmology.com/OldershawRobert.pdf

Still numerology. You scale the numbers to whatever you think works, and
make arbitrary choices of parameters.

You even have the case where several of your n's 'correspond' to entirely
different particles.

You are not doing physics, no matter how hard you've tried to convince
yourself that you are.

There's a reason you are posting here instead of giving lectures, publishing
articles, and going to conferences.
From: Jerry on
On Jun 1, 12:56 am, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Robert L. Oldershaw wrote:

> > Many physicists will say it has been empirically measured, but the
> > expert in the field says that is FALSE.
>
> Who might this expert be, and what are his credentials? I somewhat suspect
> the 'expert' is a guy with a web page who says something that makes sense to
> you and nothing else.

It's Oldershaw's misinterpretation of what Tom posted.

Jerry
From: Robert L. Oldershaw on
On Jun 1, 12:11 am, "Greg Neill" <gneil...(a)MOVEsympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> So, you're challenging the basic conservation laws,
> and Noether's theorem.
-----------------------------------

Somebody might reasonably ask: "Don't we already understand the
subatomic particle masses? Doesn't the Standard Model, and
specifically QCD, already provide a thorough explanation for the
particle masses?"

I will let Richard Feynman answer that important question.

“There remains one especially unsatisfactory feature [of the Standard
Model of particle physics]: the observed masses of the particles, m.
There is no theory that adequately explains these numbers. We use the
numbers in all our theories, but we do not understand them – what they
are, or where they come from. I believe that from a fundamental point
of view, this is a very interesting and serious problem.” Richard
Feynman

Read that quotation carefuly several times. It was written in about
1988, but there has been no improvement in the situation in spite of
all the hype surrounding "string theory", supersymmetry, QCD, and any
number of other hermetic gambits.

This is why a retrodiction of the particle mass spectrum, if it is
based on sound physics, albeit necessarily a radical departure from
past failures, is so important.

RLO
www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw


From: Robert L. Oldershaw on
On Jun 1, 7:22 am, Jerry <Cephalobus_alie...(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Who might this expert be, and what are his credentials? I somewhat suspect
> > the 'expert' is a guy with a web page who says something that makes sense to
> > you and nothing else.
--------------------------------------------------------

It was a thoughtful professional physicist writing a review of the
subject that was requested by the editor of the peer-reviewed physics
journal Contemporary Physics.

Woof-on, Woofy
From: Greg Neill on
Robert L. Oldershaw wrote:
> On Jun 1, 12:11 am, "Greg Neill" <gneil...(a)MOVEsympatico.ca> wrote:
>>
>> So, you're challenging the basic conservation laws,
>> and Noether's theorem.
> -----------------------------------
>
> Somebody might reasonably ask: "Don't we already understand the
> subatomic particle masses? Doesn't the Standard Model, and
> specifically QCD, already provide a thorough explanation for the
> particle masses?"
>
> I will let Richard Feynman answer that important question.
>
> �There remains one especially unsatisfactory feature [of the Standard
> Model of particle physics]: the observed masses of the particles, m.
> There is no theory that adequately explains these numbers. We use the
> numbers in all our theories, but we do not understand them � what they
> are, or where they come from. I believe that from a fundamental point
> of view, this is a very interesting and serious problem.� Richard
> Feynman
>
> Read that quotation carefuly several times. It was written in about
> 1988, but there has been no improvement in the situation in spite of
> all the hype surrounding "string theory", supersymmetry, QCD, and any
> number of other hermetic gambits.
>
> This is why a retrodiction of the particle mass spectrum, if it is
> based on sound physics, albeit necessarily a radical departure from
> past failures, is so important.
>
> RLO
> www.amherst.edu/~rloldershaw

You changed the subject. What's the above got to do with
the empirical measurement of particle properties such as
spin?