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From: dwn dwn on 10 Apr 2010 02:36
On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:51:50 -0500, BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:

Bill, just to let you know I am still here. I had my old Internet provider
disconnect, now on cable modem and not wireless modem.
Thanks for staying with me.

>First I wouldn't delete anything. That i386 folder could be in your
>Windows folder or on your recovery partition or both. This folder
>contains the whole Windows XP install.

I had not deleted anything. To get into the hidden partition, I had to enable
Administrator (try and error) in CMD.EXE. In the hidden partition I look for
i366 folder and I copy everything into my flash USB card.

I reboot, in normal mode, WinXP, the same hidden I386 folder, there are only a
handful of files and not the ten of thousands files and folders. I also check
the same name I386 folder in "C" drive, here there are ten of thousands (I copy
it to my flash USB card under different names).

I am perplex how come in normal window mode the ten of thousands files and
folders are missing in "hidden" folder?

VERY INPORTANT - Both folders files are in compress files:

"ABCD.EX_"
"ABCD.IN_"

How do you compress or uncompressed these file in MS DOS or DOT Prompt?

I check the hidden folder again, Boot.ini is missing and the other two
ntldr, NTDETECT.COM is in there. Could the boot.ini the problems?

I may have the choices: Copy "boot.ini" from the normal mode, into the hidden
folder, in compress form. Or, edit a new "Boot.ini" and do the same as you had
stated in your post.

What shall I do next, you may also need to tell me where and how the compress or
uncompressed files to process?


>There are two ways to run the Windows XP install. From XP, WinPE, or
>BartPE, run Winnt32. From DOS, run Winnt. Although the install files
>can't be on a NTFS partition if you are using DOS. Plus you need to use
>Smartdrv if you use DOS to install it. Otherwise it take like a day to
>install XP.

I am not clear here. Where to get WinPE, BartPE? Do I use Winnt32?

>And I wouldn't delete anything on your hard drive. Let the Windows
>install do that. If you have enough room on the drive you should be
>fine. Say 4GB to 6GB free should be plenty.

Enuf for two i386.

snip..
>
>USB ports should work fine from safe mode.

My USB is working in Command Dot prompt.
>
...snip..

>> Let me be clear, do you mean i386 folder in the hidden partitions contain
>> recovery files?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>
>It is usually in the Windows folder. Although they could put it
>anywhere. Even in the recovery partition.

That's where I still cannot figure it as of now.

Thanks again, in the meantime I will keep trying even if I screw up I should
have learn something. I am asking my wife to send the recovery disks and
will probably take weeks including other items.

From: BillW50 on 10 Apr 2010 16:20
dwn wrote on Fri, 09 Apr 2010 23:36:49 -0700:
> On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 09:51:50 -0500, BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:
>
> Bill, just to let you know I am still here. I had my old Internet provider
> disconnect, now on cable modem and not wireless modem.
> Thanks for staying with me.

Okay.

>> First I wouldn't delete anything. That i386 folder could be in your
>> Windows folder or on your recovery partition or both. This folder
>> contains the whole Windows XP install.
>
> I had not deleted anything. To get into the hidden partition, I had to enable
> Administrator (try and error) in CMD.EXE. In the hidden partition I look for
> i366 folder and I copy everything into my flash USB card.

For DOS (if you use the Windows 98 Startup disk or any other DOS), the
flash drive must be in FAT format before DOS can read it. Most flash
drives are formatted in FAT so you should be good there.

I only mention about DOS, because to reinstall Windows XP from the i386
folder... you need to do so by one or two methods.

1) From Windows XP, BartPE, or WinPE
RUN Winnt32.exe

2) From DOS
RUN Winnt.exe

> I reboot, in normal mode, WinXP, the same hidden I386 folder, there are only a
> handful of files and not the ten of thousands files and folders. I also check
> the same name I386 folder in "C" drive, here there are ten of thousands (I copy
> it to my flash USB card under different names).

Good deal!

> I am perplex how come in normal window mode the ten of thousands files and
> folders are missing in "hidden" folder?
>
> VERY INPORTANT - Both folders files are in compress files:
>
> "ABCD.EX_"
> "ABCD.IN_"
>
> How do you compress or uncompressed these file in MS DOS or DOT Prompt?

Don't worry about uncompressing any of the files. As either Winnt or
Winnt32 will do this automatically.

> I check the hidden folder again, Boot.ini is missing and the other two
> ntldr, NTDETECT.COM is in there. Could the boot.ini the problems?

Boot.ini isn't one of the install files but is created once Windows XP
gets installed. So that is okay. Only a bootable working Windows XP will
have a boot.ini file.

> I may have the choices: Copy "boot.ini" from the normal mode, into the hidden
> folder, in compress form. Or, edit a new "Boot.ini" and do the same as you had
> stated in your post.

Not necessary for the install files found in the i386 folder(s).

> What shall I do next, you may also need to tell me where and how the compress or
> uncompressed files to process?

I would treat these two i386 folders as two totally different Windows XP
installs. So if you have a problem with one of them, use the other one.

>> There are two ways to run the Windows XP install. From XP, WinPE, or
>> BartPE, run Winnt32. From DOS, run Winnt. Although the install files
>> can't be on a NTFS partition if you are using DOS. Plus you need to use
>> Smartdrv if you use DOS to install it. Otherwise it take like a day to
>> install XP.
>
> I am not clear here. Where to get WinPE, BartPE? Do I use Winnt32?

Well WinPE is from Microsoft and is usually hard to get. But BartPE is
the same thing basically and can be easily created in about 15 minutes.
You can Google it to learn how.

But for now, you can run Winnt32.exe to start the Windows XP install (or
in this case reinstall) right from Windows XP itself. So you don't need
either BartPE or WinPE.

And if Windows XP fails to run Winnt.exe for some reason. You can use
the Windows 98 Startup disk and your flash drive to run Winnt.exe
instead. That is another way to (re)install Windows XP.

>> And I wouldn't delete anything on your hard drive. Let the Windows
>> install do that. If you have enough room on the drive you should be
>> fine. Say 4GB to 6GB free should be plenty.
>
> Enuf for two i386.
>
> snip..
>> USB ports should work fine from safe mode.
>
> My USB is working in Command Dot prompt.
> ..snip..

The USB device needs to be connected before you turn on the computer for
DOS, BartPE, or WinPE to see it. So remember that. Windows XP is okay if
you plug it in later. As for the former, if the BIOS doesn't know they
are there, neither will the xPE and the DOS OS.

>>> Let me be clear, do you mean i386 folder in the hidden partitions contain
>>> recovery files?
>>>
>>> Thanks

Not really the recovery files per se, but the Windows XP (re)install
files. Which could be the same thing depending how you look at at.

>> It is usually in the Windows folder. Although they could put it
>> anywhere. Even in the recovery partition.
>
> That's where I still cannot figure it as of now.

Well finding two i386 folders is a good thing. One should do the job,
but two is a big plus.

> Thanks again, in the meantime I will keep trying even if I screw up I should
> have learn something. I am asking my wife to send the recovery disks and
> will probably take weeks including other items.

I would have your wife make a copy of it before she sends it. Just in
case you never see it again.

--
Bill
Asus EEE PC 702G4 ~ 2GB RAM ~ 16GB-SDHC
Xandros Linux (build 2007-10-19 13:03)
From: dwn on 10 Apr 2010 21:54
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 15:20:05 -0500, BillW50 <BillW50(a)aol.kom> wrote:


Snip....

I have not fully digest what you have posted, because of different
time zone, I have to let you know I copies both I386 in CMD.exe (depressing F8
key) and not using boot diskettes. I found in You Tube BartPE, will have to
watch it several time before I proceed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0reKK2ASEaU

Great stuff! Will return with more questions.
Thank you.


>For DOS (if you use the Windows 98 Startup disk or any other DOS), the
>flash drive must be in FAT format before DOS can read it. Most flash
>drives are formatted in FAT so you should be good there.
>
>I only mention about DOS, because to reinstall Windows XP from the i386
>folder... you need to do so by one or two methods.
>
>1) From Windows XP, BartPE, or WinPE
> RUN Winnt32.exe
>
>2) From DOS
> RUN Winnt.exe

Just to let you know, I copies both I386 by going into
>
>> I reboot, in normal mode, WinXP, the same hidden I386 folder, there are only a
>> handful of files and not the ten of thousands files and folders. I also check
>> the same name I386 folder in "C" drive, here there are ten of thousands (I copy
>> it to my flash USB card under different names).
>
>Good deal!
>
>> I am perplex how come in normal window mode the ten of thousands files and
>> folders are missing in "hidden" folder?
>>
>> VERY INPORTANT - Both folders files are in compress files:
>>
>> "ABCD.EX_"
>> "ABCD.IN_"
>>
>> How do you compress or uncompressed these file in MS DOS or DOT Prompt?
>
>Don't worry about uncompressing any of the files. As either Winnt or
>Winnt32 will do this automatically.
>
>> I check the hidden folder again, Boot.ini is missing and the other two
>> ntldr, NTDETECT.COM is in there. Could the boot.ini the problems?
>
>Boot.ini isn't one of the install files but is created once Windows XP
>gets installed. So that is okay. Only a bootable working Windows XP will
>have a boot.ini file.
>
>> I may have the choices: Copy "boot.ini" from the normal mode, into the hidden
>> folder, in compress form. Or, edit a new "Boot.ini" and do the same as you had
>> stated in your post.
>
>Not necessary for the install files found in the i386 folder(s).
>
>> What shall I do next, you may also need to tell me where and how the compress or
>> uncompressed files to process?
>
>I would treat these two i386 folders as two totally different Windows XP
>installs. So if you have a problem with one of them, use the other one.
>
>>> There are two ways to run the Windows XP install. From XP, WinPE, or
>>> BartPE, run Winnt32. From DOS, run Winnt. Although the install files
>>> can't be on a NTFS partition if you are using DOS. Plus you need to use
>>> Smartdrv if you use DOS to install it. Otherwise it take like a day to
>>> install XP.
>>
>> I am not clear here. Where to get WinPE, BartPE? Do I use Winnt32?
>
>Well WinPE is from Microsoft and is usually hard to get. But BartPE is
>the same thing basically and can be easily created in about 15 minutes.
>You can Google it to learn how.
>
>But for now, you can run Winnt32.exe to start the Windows XP install (or
>in this case reinstall) right from Windows XP itself. So you don't need
>either BartPE or WinPE.
>
>And if Windows XP fails to run Winnt.exe for some reason. You can use
>the Windows 98 Startup disk and your flash drive to run Winnt.exe
>instead. That is another way to (re)install Windows XP.
>
>>> And I wouldn't delete anything on your hard drive. Let the Windows
>>> install do that. If you have enough room on the drive you should be
>>> fine. Say 4GB to 6GB free should be plenty.
>>
>> Enuf for two i386.
>>
>> snip..
>>> USB ports should work fine from safe mode.
>>
>> My USB is working in Command Dot prompt.
>> ..snip..
>
>The USB device needs to be connected before you turn on the computer for
>DOS, BartPE, or WinPE to see it. So remember that. Windows XP is okay if
>you plug it in later. As for the former, if the BIOS doesn't know they
>are there, neither will the xPE and the DOS OS.
>
>>>> Let me be clear, do you mean i386 folder in the hidden partitions contain
>>>> recovery files?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>
>Not really the recovery files per se, but the Windows XP (re)install
>files. Which could be the same thing depending how you look at at.
>
>>> It is usually in the Windows folder. Although they could put it
>>> anywhere. Even in the recovery partition.
>>
>> That's where I still cannot figure it as of now.
>
>Well finding two i386 folders is a good thing. One should do the job,
>but two is a big plus.
>
>> Thanks again, in the meantime I will keep trying even if I screw up I should
>> have learn something. I am asking my wife to send the recovery disks and
>> will probably take weeks including other items.
>
>I would have your wife make a copy of it before she sends it. Just in
>case you never see it again.

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