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From: David Empson on 27 Jan 2010 09:28 Christoph Gartmann <gartmann(a)nonsense.immunbio.mpg.de> wrote: > In article <SalmonEgg-5F14B1.02321527012010(a)news60.forteinc.com>, Salmon > Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> writes: > > >What would people here recommend that allow simple data manipulations > >but not require much integration of software from multiple sources? > > I just ran into a very similar problem - I wanted to teach my kids a bit > of programming, of course without a lot of stuff around. I thought about > Pascal as well. So I came across FreePascal (www.freepascal.org). Here the > main problem was the installation. On the Mac it requires SDK. This is a > bit tricky to find because Apple lists only the new version for Snow > Leopard (my system has still the standard Leopard). You need a free Apple Developer Connection account to download the Mac developer tools (unless you get the iPhone SDK instead, which has a different procedure). If you don't intend to do iPhone development, the Mac development tools by themselves are considerably smaller. Once you have the ADC account you go to connect.apple.com, log in, and go to the Development Tools category. You can still download older Leopard-compatible versions of the developer tools, and probably even older Tiger-compatible versions. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: Jolly Roger on 27 Jan 2010 09:33 In article <me-8DE562.07265227012010(a)news.supernews.com>, Dan <me(a)here.net> wrote: > In article <SalmonEgg-5F14B1.02321527012010(a)news60.forteinc.com>, > Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > > > Now it seems much more complicated. I wanted to use Lightweight IDE, but > > found out that you also needed FPC and Xcode. all with poor > > instructions. That is why I am considering BASIC again even with its > > built-in lures to produce spaghetti code. > > Only 30 year old BASIC interpreters have "built-in lures to produce > spaghetti code". Modern implementations have just as much structure as > Pascal. > > RealBASIC is the best BASIC compiler on OS X these days. A single > source file produces code for Windows, OS X and Linux. I use it and > find it powerful and easy to use. Just curious: What do you think of FutureBASIC? -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Tom Harrington on 27 Jan 2010 12:19 In article <SalmonEgg-5F14B1.02321527012010(a)news60.forteinc.com>, Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > What would people here recommend that allow simple data manipulations > but not require much integration of software from multiple sources? Mac OS X comes with several scripting languages that would likely meet your needs. Personally I'd suggest Python or Ruby, but Perl is also a good choice. Also, though I prefer to avoid RealBASIC and the like, BASIC has evolved significantly since it sounds like you last used it. For your needs it'd be worth a look. -- Tom "Tom" Harrington Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002 http://www.atomicbird.com/
From: Salmon Egg on 27 Jan 2010 12:43 In article <SalmonEgg-5F14B1.02321527012010(a)news60.forteinc.com>, Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote: > What would people here recommend that allow simple data manipulations > but not require much integration of software from multiple sources? As I expected, I got many good responses from posters on this newsgroup. It is almost too much of a good thing. I now have to decide where to go first. Thanks to everyone who responded. There are too many to cite individually. My thoughts are to investigate Applescript. It was something I wanted to do anyway but was putting off. I might look at some of the more modern BASICs because that strikes me as a quick way to start. I still want to look at Pascal because I did use it a lot at one time and like it. In any event, it looks like I have enough to keep me off the streets for a while. I have old versions of Pascal and C dating as far back as TML Pascal and Symentec development systems. I presume these are useless. If anyone knows differently, please let me know. Thanks again. Bill -- An old man would be better off never having been born.
From: Richard Maine on 27 Jan 2010 12:47
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