From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Per_R=F8nne?= on
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> About 20 years ago, I liked to program in Pascal because it imposed a
> degree of discipline that I would otherwise not had. Since retirement,
> my needs for programming have been satisfied by using Excel. Lately
> however, I find the need for something a bit more heavy duty to
> manipulate strings. My thoughts ran to Pascal, but BASIC would be OK as
> well.
>
> My problem is that I want a vanilla version without all the versatility
> and features that seem to pervade software. Borland Pascal was good. You
> could type and run. UCSD Pascal on the Apple ][ was good. You typed your
> file and then could run.
>
> Now it seems much more complicated. I wanted to use Lightweight IDE, but
> found out that you also needed FPC and Xcode. all with poor
> instructions. That is why I am considering BASIC again even with its
> built-in lures to produce spaghetti code.
>
> What would people here recommend that allow simple data manipulations
> but not require much integration of software from multiple sources?

You can run GNU Pascal on your Mac. It is a kind of Borland Pascal and
it is a free download:

<http://www.gnu-pascal.de/gpc/h-index.html>

You can download it for Mac here:

<http://www.microbizz.nl/gpc.html>

with binaries for Tiger, Leopard and Snow Leopard.

And integration kit for Apple's XCode IDE.
--
Per Erik R�nne
http://www.RQNNE.dk
Errare humanum est, sed in errore perseverare turpe
From: Jim Gibson on
In article <SalmonEgg-5F14B1.02321527012010(a)news60.forteinc.com>,
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:


> What would people here recommend that allow simple data manipulations
> but not require much integration of software from multiple sources?

I have not used it, but I have always thought Realbasic would be a good
tool for simple programming jobs on the Mac:

<http://www.realsoftware.com/realbasic/>

--
Jim Gibson
From: nospam on
In article <1jczqy0.1lze1gq1yqygl5N%per(a)RQNNE.invalid>, Per R�nne
<per(a)RQNNE.invalid> wrote:

> You can run GNU Pascal on your Mac. It is a kind of Borland Pascal and
> it is a free download:

it's not well supported and not worth the trouble.
From: nospam on
In article <vilain-BB44A0.09502727012010(a)news.individual.net>, Michael
Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote:

> HATE Pascal. It's upside down (with subroutines first).

declaring something before using it is hardly upside down. you need to
do that with variables, for example.
From: nospam on
In article <SalmonEgg-14FDB2.09432827012010(a)news60.forteinc.com>,
Salmon Egg <SalmonEgg(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> I have old versions of Pascal and C dating as far back as TML Pascal and
> Symentec development systems. I presume these are useless. If anyone
> knows differently, please let me know.

useless. even if you could get it to work (and it would need classic
which is gone), they compile to 68k code.