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From: Ramon F Herrera on 29 Apr 2010 19:26
On Apr 28, 7:30 pm, Bret Cahill <BretCah...(a)peoplepc.com> wrote:
> > >>> The media are using the recession in their eternal campaign to disable
> > >>> democracy. They are always trying to get the poor to hate their congressman:
> > >> No need to do that, almost everyone detests them already.
> > > Because they are ignorant of popular government.
> > Nope,
>
> Google _Das KapitalOne_ where rightards thought Karl Marx wrote the
> Federalist #10.
>
> . . .
>
> > > And guess who is behind the campaign to keep 'em ignorant?
> > Just another completely mindless conspiracy theory.
>
> No conspiracy to it.
>
> They know who pays their way.
>
> It's called "conflict of interest."
>
> > > The MIM (monied interest media).
>
> . . .
>
> > >>> "You are unemployed and your congressman just voted himself a raise..
> > >>> Ain't that an outrage?"
> > >> Corse its an outrage when those fools were too stupid to prevent
> > >> the complete implosion of the entire world financial system, AGAIN.
> > > You get what you pay for.
>
> . . .
>
> > >>> The goal of the media is, of course, to make
> > >>> voters as cynical about government as possible
> > >> They are that already, stupid.
> > >>> so that they won't vote and/or won't expect much from government,
> > >>> exactly what their monied interest sponsors _pay_ them to do.
> > >>> But ignore the media's "we need to punish someone" demagoguery for a few
> > >>> seconds and instead of just using a stick, why not use the carrot as well the stick?
> > >>> Here's an opportunity for the corp. media to resume hyping "median income."
> > >>> If Congress figures out a way gets median income up your congresscritter gets a nice raise.
> > >>> Unemployment will be included so an increase in unemployment will cut his pay.
> > >> And they are absolutely guaranteed to vote for that approach very enthusiastically indeed...
> > > The congressman will support legislation that will keep unemployment low.
>
> . . .
>
> > >>> There isn't anything wrong with having "the best Congress
> > >>> many can buy" as long as the _people_ are doing the buying.
> > >>> Right now ExxonMobil is doing the buying.
> > >>> Repugs would want to fight it as they represent the same anti-
> > >>> democratic monied interests behind the corp. media but it would
> > >>> expose their lies about supporting free marketry.
> > >>> We need to get away from the Islamic fundy mentality, "I don't care
> > >>> how bad I live I just want to make sure you suffer."
> > >>> The American way has been to work with Congress so most everyone can live better.
> > > Lot's a noise deleted.
>

> More noise deleted.
>
> Bret Cahill

Good riddance.

-RFH

From: Bret Cahill on 29 Apr 2010 23:28
The media are using the recession in their eternal campaign to
disable
democracy. They are always trying to get the poor to hate their
congressman:

"You are unemployed and your congressman just voted himself a raise.
Ain't that an outrage?"

The goal of the media is, of course, to make voters as cynical about
government as possible so that they won't vote and/or won't expect
much from government, exactly what their monied interest sponsors
_pay_ them to do.

But ignore the media's "we need to punish someone" demagoguery for a
few seconds and instead of just using a stick, why not use the carrot
as well the stick?

Here's an opportunity for the corp. media to resume hyping "median
income."

If Congress figures out a way gets median income up your
congresscritter gets a nice raise. Unemployment will be included so
an increase in unemployment will cut his pay.

There isn't anything wrong with having "the best Congress many can
buy" as long as the _people_ are doing the buying.

Right now ExxonMobil is doing the buying.

Repugs would want to fight it as they represent the same anti-
democratic monied interests behind the corp. media but it would
expose
their lies about supporting free marketry.

We need to get away from the Islamic fundy mentality, "I don't care
how bad I live I just want to make sure you suffer."

The American way has been to work with Congress so most everyone can
live better.


Bret Cahill


"Always mistrust those who always want to punish."


-- Nietzsche




From: Shrikeback on 29 Apr 2010 23:32
On Apr 29, 8:28 pm, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> The media are using the recession in their eternal campaign to
> disable
> democracy.  They are always trying to get the poor to hate their
> congressman:
>
> "You are unemployed and your congressman just voted himself a raise.
> Ain't that an outrage?"
>
> The goal of the media is, of course, to make voters as cynical about
> government as possible so that they won't vote and/or won't expect
> much from government, exactly what their monied interest sponsors
> _pay_ them to do.
>
> But ignore the media's "we need to punish someone" demagoguery for a
> few seconds and instead of just using a stick, why not use the carrot
> as well the stick?
>
> Here's an opportunity for the corp. media to resume hyping "median
> income."
>
> If Congress figures out a way gets median income up your
> congresscritter gets a nice raise.  Unemployment will be included so
> an increase in unemployment will cut his pay.
>
> There isn't anything wrong with having "the best Congress many can
> buy" as long as the _people_ are doing the buying.
>
> Right now ExxonMobil is doing the buying.
>
> Repugs would want to fight it as they represent the same anti-
> democratic monied interests behind the corp. media but it would
> expose
> their lies about supporting free marketry.
>
> We need to get away from the Islamic fundy mentality, "I don't care
> how bad I live I just want to make sure you suffer."
>
> The American way has been to work with Congress so most everyone can
> live better.
>
> Bret Cahill
>
> "Always mistrust those who always want to punish."
>
> -- Nietzsche

I say we cut it to 1/8th of median income. And if
they go on strike, we should hire a bunch of
undocumented alien scabs, and pay _them_
under the table. No need for China to even
know about the transaction.
From: Bret Cahill on 29 Apr 2010 23:45
> I am somewhat confused as to why you think the
> crosspost to sci.math is appropriate.

Up until recently the corp. media would brand you a "populist" [code
for Hitler, Stalin, Ross Perot and David Duke all rolled up into one
super monster] if you dared to mention average mean income .

That won't happen with any other parameter in math or stats.

The discovery here is it is now it's possible to be branded a
"populist" just by mentioning _median_ income.

That's a big breakthrough.


Bret Cahill









From: William Hughes on 30 Apr 2010 09:07
On Apr 30, 12:45 am, Bret Cahill <Bret_E_Cah...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> > I am somewhat confused as to why you think the
> > crosspost to sci.math is appropriate.
>
> Up until recently the corp. media would brand you a "populist" [code
> for Hitler, Stalin, Ross Perot and David Duke all rolled up into one
> super monster] if you dared to mention average mean income .
>
> That won't happen with any other parameter in math or stats.
>
> The discovery here is it is now it's possible to be branded a
> "populist" just by mentioning _median_ income.
>
> That's a big breakthrough.

I am no longer confused. Your "explanation" is more than
sufficient for understanding your motives.

- William Hughes
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