From: Bret Cahill on
The media are using the recession in their eternal campaign to disable
democracy. They are always trying to get the poor to hate their
congressman:

"You are unemployed and your congressman just voted himself a raise.
Ain't that an outrage?"

The goal of the media is, of course, to make voters as cynical about
government as possible so that they won't vote and/or won't expect
much from government, exactly what their monied interest sponsors
_pay_ them to do.

But ignore the media's "we need to punish someone" demagoguery for a
few seconds and instead of just using a stick, why not use the carrot
as well the stick?

Here's an opportunity for the corp. media to resume hyping "median
income."

If Congress figures out a way gets median income up your
congresscritter gets a nice raise. Unemployment will be included so
an increase in unemployment will cut his pay.

There isn't anything wrong with having "the best Congress many can
buy" as long as the _people_ are doing the buying.

Right now ExxonMobil is doing the buying.

Repugs would want to fight it as they represent the same anti-
democratic monied interests behind the corp. media but it would expose
their lies about supporting free marketry.

We need to get away from the Islamic fundy mentality, "I don't care
how bad I live I just want to make sure you suffer."

The American way has been to work with Congress so most everyone can
live better.


Bret Cahill


"Always mistrust those who always want to punish."

-- Nietzsche





From: Bret Cahill on
> > The media are using the recession in their eternal campaign to disable
> > democracy.  They are always trying to get the poor to hate their congressman:

> No need to do that, almost everyone detests them already.

Because they are ignorant of popular government.

And guess who is behind the campaign to keep 'em ignorant?

The MIM (monied interest media).

> > "You are unemployed and your congressman just voted himself a raise.
> > Ain't that an outrage?"

> Corse its an outrage when those fools were too stupid to prevent
> the complete implosion of the entire world financial system, AGAIN.

You get what you pay for.

> > The goal of the media is, of course, to make
> > voters as cynical about government as possible

> They are that already, stupid.

> > so that they won't vote and/or won't expect much from government,
> > exactly what their monied interest sponsors _pay_ them to do.

.. . .

> > But ignore the media's "we need to punish someone" demagoguery for a few
> > seconds and instead of just using a stick, why not use the carrot as well the stick?

.. . .

> > Here's an opportunity for the corp. media to resume hyping "median income."
> > If Congress figures out a way gets median income up your congresscritter gets a nice raise.

.. . .


> > Unemployment will be included so an increase in unemployment will cut his pay.

> And they are absolutely guaranteed to vote for that approach very enthusiastically indeed...

The congressman will support legislation that will keep unemployment
low.

> > There isn't anything wrong with having "the best Congress
> > many can buy" as long as the _people_ are doing the buying.
> > Right now ExxonMobil is doing the buying.

.. . .

> > Repugs would want to fight it as they represent the same anti-
> > democratic monied interests behind the corp. media but it would
> > expose their lies about supporting free marketry.

.. . .

> > We need to get away from the Islamic fundy mentality, "I don't care
> > how bad I live I just want to make sure you suffer."

.. . .

> > The American way has been to work with Congress so most everyone can live better.

.. . .

Lot's a noise deleted.


Bret Cahill


From: Rod Speed on
Bret Cahill wrote:

>>> The media are using the recession in their eternal campaign to disable
>>> democracy. They are always trying to get the poor to hate their congressman:

>> No need to do that, almost everyone detests them already.

> Because they are ignorant of popular government.

Nope, because they realise they are fools.

> And guess who is behind the campaign to keep 'em ignorant?

Just another completely mindless conspiracy theory.

> The MIM (monied interest media).

Just another completely mindless conspiracy theory.

>>> "You are unemployed and your congressman just voted himself a raise.
>>> Ain't that an outrage?"

>> Corse its an outrage when those fools were too stupid to prevent
>> the complete implosion of the entire world financial system, AGAIN.

> You get what you pay for.

Just another completely mindless mantra.

>>> The goal of the media is, of course, to make
>>> voters as cynical about government as possible

>> They are that already, stupid.

>>> so that they won't vote and/or won't expect much from government,
>>> exactly what their monied interest sponsors _pay_ them to do.

>>> But ignore the media's "we need to punish someone" demagoguery for a few
>>> seconds and instead of just using a stick, why not use the carrot as well the stick?

>>> Here's an opportunity for the corp. media to resume hyping "median income."

>>> If Congress figures out a way gets median income up your congresscritter gets a nice raise.

>>> Unemployment will be included so an increase in unemployment will cut his pay.

>> And they are absolutely guaranteed to vote for that approach very enthusiastically indeed...

> The congressman will support legislation that will keep unemployment low.

Only in your pathetic little drug crazed pig ignorant fantasyland.
>
>>> There isn't anything wrong with having "the best Congress
>>> many can buy" as long as the _people_ are doing the buying.
>>> Right now ExxonMobil is doing the buying.

>>> Repugs would want to fight it as they represent the same anti-
>>> democratic monied interests behind the corp. media but it would
>>> expose their lies about supporting free marketry.

>>> We need to get away from the Islamic fundy mentality, "I don't care
>>> how bad I live I just want to make sure you suffer."

>>> The American way has been to work with Congress so most everyone can live better.

> Lot's a noise deleted.

Never ever could bullshit and lie its way out of a wet paper bag.


From: Bret Cahill on
> >>> The media are using the recession in their eternal campaign to disable
> >>> democracy. They are always trying to get the poor to hate their congressman:

> >> No need to do that, almost everyone detests them already.

> > Because they are ignorant of popular government.

> Nope,

Google _Das KapitalOne_ where rightards thought Karl Marx wrote the
Federalist #10.

.. . .

> > And guess who is behind the campaign to keep 'em ignorant?

> Just another completely mindless conspiracy theory.

No conspiracy to it.

They know who pays their way.

It's called "conflict of interest."

> > The MIM (monied interest media).

.. . .

> >>> "You are unemployed and your congressman just voted himself a raise.
> >>> Ain't that an outrage?"

> >> Corse its an outrage when those fools were too stupid to prevent
> >> the complete implosion of the entire world financial system, AGAIN.

> > You get what you pay for.

.. . .

> >>> The goal of the media is, of course, to make
> >>> voters as cynical about government as possible

> >> They are that already, stupid.

> >>> so that they won't vote and/or won't expect much from government,
> >>> exactly what their monied interest sponsors _pay_ them to do.
> >>> But ignore the media's "we need to punish someone" demagoguery for a few
> >>> seconds and instead of just using a stick, why not use the carrot as well the stick?
> >>> Here's an opportunity for the corp. media to resume hyping "median income."
> >>> If Congress figures out a way gets median income up your congresscritter gets a nice raise.
> >>> Unemployment will be included so an increase in unemployment will cut his pay.

> >> And they are absolutely guaranteed to vote for that approach very enthusiastically indeed...

> > The congressman will support legislation that will keep unemployment low.

.. . .


> >>> There isn't anything wrong with having "the best Congress
> >>> many can buy" as long as the _people_ are doing the buying.
> >>> Right now ExxonMobil is doing the buying.
> >>> Repugs would want to fight it as they represent the same anti-
> >>> democratic monied interests behind the corp. media but it would
> >>> expose their lies about supporting free marketry.
> >>> We need to get away from the Islamic fundy mentality, "I don't care
> >>> how bad I live I just want to make sure you suffer."
> >>> The American way has been to work with Congress so most everyone can live better.

> > Lot's a noise deleted.

More noise deleted.


Bret Cahill


From: William Hughes on
I am amused by your incredible parochialism, but
I am somewhat confused as to why you think the
crosspost to sci.math is appropriate.

-William Hughes