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From: Darwin123 on 23 Jun 2010 22:58
On Jun 21, 10:53 am, Mike Vandeman <MikeVande...(a)hushmail.com> wrote:

> This abiotic oil theory along with the currect genesis theory of the
> earth-moon systen suggests that there should be valuable
> concentrations of petroleum on the moon.
Or Green cheese.
From: jwarner1 on 24 Jun 2010 23:46
nice post! Thanks...



Mike Vandeman wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm reading a great paper published in PNAS:
>
> "The evolution of multicomponent systems at high pressures: VI. The
> thermodynamic stability of the hydrogen�carbon system: The genesis of
> hydrocarbons and the origin of petroleum"
>
> http://www.pnas.org/content/99/17/10976.full.pdf+html
>
> The paper discusses thermodymanic stabity theory and presents model
> experimental results in which hydrocarbons are generated abiotically.
>
> The experiment involves cooking lab grade CaCO3 and FeO with triple-
> distilled H2O to exclude biota. The temperature and pressure used are
> found within the mantle of the Earth. Calcium carbonate is a barely
> representative mineral of the earth's minerals. FeO is a rare
> intermediate oxidation state of ion, more reduced than fully oxidized
> iron found in the crust and more oxidized than the molten iron core of
> the earth. Those few of you who have mastered high school chemistry
> will understand the chemistry. In the reactions studied by the
> authors, calcium carbonate provides a source of carbon in an oxidized
> state, FeO is a catalyst and reducing agent and H2O provides a source
> for hydrogen. Cook and squeeze under mantle conditions and you end up
> with an equilbrium mixture of complex hydrocarbons. The authors
> presentation of theory gives a graph for normal alkanes, alkenes,
> cycloalkanes and polyaromatics up to carbon number 20.
>
> All this seems compelling from the point of view of our knowledge of
> the solar system. We can see compex mixtures of hydrocarbons laying
> about on moons such as Titan. We know of the carbonaceous chondrites
> which contain what I would call asphalts.
>
> You can read about carbonaceous chondrites here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbonaceous_chondrites
>
> My reading of the wikipedia article is that the author leans towards a
> biological origin for the asteriod's materials. Let's dismiss that
> idea for a moment and ask ourselves, 'how did polyaromatic
> hydrocarbons like asphalt get hurtled into outer space?' If they were
> created in an abiotic process deep within the mantle of a planet, then
> we are talking about exploding planets much like Superman's planet
> Krypton exploded!
>
> However, the current dominant theory for the origin of our Moon is
> that our earth was explodied in a massive collision with a Mars size
> impactor. The debris reassembled into what is now the earth-moon
> system.
>
> This abiotic oil theory along with the currect genesis theory of the
> earth-moon systen suggests that there should be valuable
> concentrations of petroleum on the moon.
>
> My question to this congegrations is has any such evidence been
> observed and has any one bothered to look? Maybe oil seeps on the
> moon's surface might be visible by telescope? Objects as small as
> lunar rovers have been seen using powerful telescopes on earth,

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