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From: Peter on 5 Aug 2010 08:36 "George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:C87F67F0.3A8E5%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com... > > > > On 8/4/10 5:07 PM, in article nenj56dupr6105vc62p70u17mt2t9p8pfl(a)4ax.com, > "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:30:51 -0500, George Kerby >> <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>>>> Obviously "Resort Trained". He needs to be certified by PADI or The Y. >>>>> Someone on the boat should have asked for his card beforehand... >>>> >>>> He was certified. He couldn't have rented a tank from the dive shop >>>> that owned the boat without being certified. Being certified doesn't >>>> mean being comfortable diving. I didn't chat with the guy, but this >>>> was probably his first dive below 30 feet and going down an anchor >>>> line. Maybe even his first dive after his open water final dive for >>>> certification. All of his equipment was new and expensive. >>> >>> I got both cards with certification in the late 80's. I don't know if it >>> was >>> a PADI or a Y requirement for a 60' open water dive, but I had to do so >>> in a >>> local lake and pass written exam before I got paper to get tanks filled. >> >> Here in Florida, the open water qualifying dive can be either in one >> of the springs around the state or in ocean or the bay. I did my open >> water at Ginny Springs and then a two-dive drift dive off the coast >> near Vero Beach...one shallow dive and one deeper dive. It's been >> over 40-some years, but I don't remember a depth requirement for the >> open water. The springs are clearer water than our lakes, and deeper. >> Ginny Springs is only about 18 feet deep in the basin. The caverns >> are deeper, but novice divers don't do the caverns. >> >>> He clearly had no business having that card and leaving his buddy to go >>> it >>> alone, although he probably had a divemaster buddy up, I would think. >> >> The card only certifies that you've taken the course and taken the >> requisite qualifying dive. It doesn't determine that you are mentally >> prepared to go diving in the ocean. Knowing the basics and the >> mechanics doesn't always prepare a person for this. >> >> The diver's log book would tell the dive master if the diver had any >> experience, and I'm sure the dive master put this newbie out with an >> experienced buddy, and that the buddy would have joined another pair >> immediately after seeing his buddy didn't make it down. There were >> about 12-15 divers on the boat. >> >> I've been on dives off Florida and the Florida Keys, the Caymans, the >> Virgin Islands (both the American the British Virgins), Bimini, >> Hawaii, Cozumel, and Bon Aire. I've seen several newly-certified >> divers who couldn't handle it in the ocean. They did fine in the dive >> shop's pool and a lake or spring dive, but just couldn't hack it in >> the big water. >> >> I've been on night dives where experienced day-time divers couldn't >> handle it. They said the night dive made them claustrophobic. It is >> disorienting at first. Me, I could *never* handle a cave dive. Just >> the thought of it gives me the willies. > > As I recall, there were extra certificaion needed for cave diving. I must > admit, I never had any interest is such things. Hell, I get weird in a MRI > machine! I just wanted to blow bubbles and take pictures on pretty reefs. > I > have been to Flower Gardens in the Texas Gulf and Cozumel. Bonaire, I > understand, is a destination that ant diver should add: It's on my 'Bucket > List'. How do you like the Pennekamp Park? We're planning a trip to the > Keys > in January. > I have fond memories diving fro Islamorada. the park is neat, though doesn't compare to the Caymans. -- Peter
From: LOL! on 5 Aug 2010 08:45 On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 08:36:20 -0400, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >"George Kerby" <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:C87F67F0.3A8E5%ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com... >> >> >> >> On 8/4/10 5:07 PM, in article nenj56dupr6105vc62p70u17mt2t9p8pfl(a)4ax.com, >> "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:30:51 -0500, George Kerby >>> <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>>>> Obviously "Resort Trained". He needs to be certified by PADI or The Y. >>>>>> Someone on the boat should have asked for his card beforehand... >>>>> >>>>> He was certified. He couldn't have rented a tank from the dive shop >>>>> that owned the boat without being certified. Being certified doesn't >>>>> mean being comfortable diving. I didn't chat with the guy, but this >>>>> was probably his first dive below 30 feet and going down an anchor >>>>> line. Maybe even his first dive after his open water final dive for >>>>> certification. All of his equipment was new and expensive. >>>> >>>> I got both cards with certification in the late 80's. I don't know if it >>>> was >>>> a PADI or a Y requirement for a 60' open water dive, but I had to do so >>>> in a >>>> local lake and pass written exam before I got paper to get tanks filled. >>> >>> Here in Florida, the open water qualifying dive can be either in one >>> of the springs around the state or in ocean or the bay. I did my open >>> water at Ginny Springs and then a two-dive drift dive off the coast >>> near Vero Beach...one shallow dive and one deeper dive. It's been >>> over 40-some years, but I don't remember a depth requirement for the >>> open water. The springs are clearer water than our lakes, and deeper. >>> Ginny Springs is only about 18 feet deep in the basin. The caverns >>> are deeper, but novice divers don't do the caverns. >>> >>>> He clearly had no business having that card and leaving his buddy to go >>>> it >>>> alone, although he probably had a divemaster buddy up, I would think. >>> >>> The card only certifies that you've taken the course and taken the >>> requisite qualifying dive. It doesn't determine that you are mentally >>> prepared to go diving in the ocean. Knowing the basics and the >>> mechanics doesn't always prepare a person for this. >>> >>> The diver's log book would tell the dive master if the diver had any >>> experience, and I'm sure the dive master put this newbie out with an >>> experienced buddy, and that the buddy would have joined another pair >>> immediately after seeing his buddy didn't make it down. There were >>> about 12-15 divers on the boat. >>> >>> I've been on dives off Florida and the Florida Keys, the Caymans, the >>> Virgin Islands (both the American the British Virgins), Bimini, >>> Hawaii, Cozumel, and Bon Aire. I've seen several newly-certified >>> divers who couldn't handle it in the ocean. They did fine in the dive >>> shop's pool and a lake or spring dive, but just couldn't hack it in >>> the big water. >>> >>> I've been on night dives where experienced day-time divers couldn't >>> handle it. They said the night dive made them claustrophobic. It is >>> disorienting at first. Me, I could *never* handle a cave dive. Just >>> the thought of it gives me the willies. >> >> As I recall, there were extra certificaion needed for cave diving. I must >> admit, I never had any interest is such things. Hell, I get weird in a MRI >> machine! I just wanted to blow bubbles and take pictures on pretty reefs. >> I >> have been to Flower Gardens in the Texas Gulf and Cozumel. Bonaire, I >> understand, is a destination that ant diver should add: It's on my 'Bucket >> List'. How do you like the Pennekamp Park? We're planning a trip to the >> Keys >> in January. >> > >I have fond memories diving fro Islamorada. the park is neat, though doesn't >compare to the Caymans. Found those on Google Earth did you? LOL!
From: Peter on 5 Aug 2010 08:43 "tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:ockk56l787hm0d7igge4003811c65torkf(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:03:58 -0500, LOL! <lol(a)lolololol.org> wrote: > >>p.s. It's not just "week long" trips into the Everglades. Try 9-month long >>treks while LIVING in the Everglades to document its many life-forms. You >>namby-pamby fuckwad. Go eat your pablum. > > Do you really think that anyone reading your posts, anyone at all, > believes these stories? > > It's probably excellent therapy for you to create these stories about > your life-as-you-would-have-liked-to-have-lived-it, but are you so > delusional that you think you are actually fooling anyone? > > Talk about laughing out loud. > I too occasionally feed Walter Mitty. -- Peter
From: tony cooper on 5 Aug 2010 08:59 On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 01:21:22 -0500, LOL! <lol(a)lolololol.org> wrote: >On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 01:56:03 -0400, tony cooper ><tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >>On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 00:03:58 -0500, LOL! <lol(a)lolololol.org> wrote: >> >>>p.s. It's not just "week long" trips into the Everglades. Try 9-month long >>>treks while LIVING in the Everglades to document its many life-forms. You >>>namby-pamby fuckwad. Go eat your pablum. >> >>Do you really think that anyone reading your posts, anyone at all, >>believes these stories? >> >>It's probably excellent therapy for you to create these stories about >>your life-as-you-would-have-liked-to-have-lived-it, but are you so >>delusional that you think you are actually fooling anyone? >> >>Talk about laughing out loud. > >Do you think that ANYONE believes your bullshit about your "tourist level" >scuba diving in safe and controlled conditions once or twice in your life? Yeah, I think people do believe what I write. I don't spin fantasy yarns about things-that-never-happened. The scuba diving I've done *has* been done in safe and controlled conditions. As it should be. If I ever post an image of a rare tree snail, it will an image that *I* took and an image that is presented without false claims of being deliberately degraded. If it has been altered (as my recent violinist photo was), that fact will be stated as full disclosure. I'm not trying to fool anyone. >Talk about laughing out loud. > >LOL! > >Where's YOUR photos of Tree Snails from remote hammocks in Florida? Eh? >We're all waiting to prove you even get out of the house. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Peter on 5 Aug 2010 09:20
"tony cooper" <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message news:r0dl56dbph7ahr0q7d3r8ka678iqeandif(a)4ax.com... > If I ever post an image of a rare tree snail, it will an image that > *I* took and an image that is presented without false claims of being > deliberately degraded. If it has been altered (as my recent violinist > photo was), that fact will be stated as full disclosure. I'm not > trying to fool anyone. > Tony, If an image is presented as a pictorial, why do you feel disclosure of things like a background change is necessary. I think that if you are presenting a PJ shot, where background is a part of the scene, or a pure nature shot, no alteration other than normal adjustments should be made. for purposes of my comment I define "normal adjustments" as one which enhances the image without changing its essential message. IOW the reason the shot was taken, should not be altered. If I am presenting a pictorial, I think anything goes. That of course, is just my opinion. I can understand if you are -- Peter |