From: rickee on
Please tell me what is the cheapest ARM with my request ip.
Our company would like to change current audio application
to embedded system.
after my researching, only 2 way to realize, one is made ASIC Chip
(request very long develop time,and huge investment), another is
buy ARM with specify IP Core.

Requirement for our Audio system:
MP3 decode/WMA decode
CD/MP3 CD/WMA CD decode including servo control (it should be DSP)
USB/SD interface
rich interface just like UART/IIC/GPIO for our externtion.

I'm a newbee on ARM,
cheapest ARM + Linux + MP3 decode core + WMA decode core + CDROM driver
+ USD/SD driver
is it ok?

Our forcast can be 100K annual, because our current cost for our solution
about $3.00, so we target on the cheapest ARM, which just for Audio but
not Video.

Thanks a lot!
Rickee Wong



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From: linnix on
On Oct 11, 6:41 am, "rickee" <rickeew...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Please tell me what is the cheapest ARM with my request ip.
> Our company would like to change current audio application
> to embedded system.
> after my researching, only 2 way to realize, one is made ASIC Chip
> (request very long develop time,and huge investment), another is
> buy ARM with specify IP Core.
>
> Requirement for our Audio system:
> MP3 decode/WMA decode
> CD/MP3 CD/WMA CD decode including servo control (it should be DSP)
> USB/SD interface
> rich interface just like UART/IIC/GPIO for our externtion.
>
> I'm a newbee on ARM,
> cheapest ARM + Linux + MP3 decode core + WMA decode core + CDROM driver
> + USD/SD driver
> is it ok?

No.

>
> Our forcast can be 100K annual, because our current cost for our solution
> about $3.00, so we target on the cheapest ARM, which just for Audio but
> not Video.

ASIC possible, not with ARM.

>
> Thanks a lot!
> Rickee Wong
>
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From: rickee on
>rickee schrieb:
>> Please tell me what is the cheapest ARM with my request ip.
>> Our company would like to change current audio application
>> to embedded system.
>> after my researching, only 2 way to realize, one is made ASIC Chip
>> (request very long develop time,and huge investment), another is
>> buy ARM with specify IP Core.
>>
>> Requirement for our Audio system:
>> MP3 decode/WMA decode
>> CD/MP3 CD/WMA CD decode including servo control (it should be DSP)
>> USB/SD interface
>> rich interface just like UART/IIC/GPIO for our externtion.
>>
>> I'm a newbee on ARM,
>> cheapest ARM + Linux + MP3 decode core + WMA decode core + CDROM driver
>> + USD/SD driver
>> is it ok?
>
>DO you REALLY need Linux? In the deeply embedded market Linux is not a
>slim swimmer, it's more like a fat hen.
>
>To be really cheap better go for a small embedded RT kernel optimized
>for small systems. Your whole app probably will fit into the space you'd
>have to set aside for the linux kernel alone without any apps otherwise.
>
>The smallest core available from ARM for integration into custom logic
>is the Cortex M0. And no, Linux is too big for it, and a full-blown
>Linux (not ucLinux) needs an MMU, which only comes with ARM9 and larger
>(the bigger cores).
>
>NXP is the first to ship standard microcontrollers with the M1 core
>(LPC1700).
>
>--
>Mit freundlichen Gr?>
>Frank-Christian Kr?>

The Linux is not must be, fullfill the feature every OS is ok.
Not by ARM also ok, I just concern the cost ,stable, and functional.
And you recommend is develop by LPC1700? Any company provide the
custom ip core? PLease let me kno how to do. Thanks

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From: malcolm on
On Oct 12, 2:41 am, "rickee" <rickeew...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Requirement for our Audio system:
> MP3 decode/WMA decode
> CD/MP3 CD/WMA CD decode including servo control (it should be DSP)
> USB/SD interface
> rich interface just like UART/IIC/GPIO for our externtion.

Why do you need arm for that ? Look at what everyone else uses for
the same product - most portable Audio systems and use custom power-
optimised MP3 decode , and once you have that, an 8 bit core is
enough.
See the Atmel AT89C51SNDx series for one example.

-jg
From: linnix on
On Oct 12, 7:29 pm, "rickee" <rickeew...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >ASIC possible, not with ARM.
>
> >> Thanks a lot!
> >> Rickee Wong
>
> ...
>
> Thanks. But as I konw develop a chips like this kind of "SOC",
> it may take more than 2 years and very expensive, right?
> ...

It takes time, but not necessary very expensive. There are well known
hardware and software libraries for mp3 decoders. If you do the IDCT
in hardware, you can do the rest in a 8bit µC.
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