From: Maury Barbato on 27 May 2010 00:42 I wrote: > Hello, > let R be the field of real numbers. Let {F_n} be > a sequence of functions F_n:[a,b]->R such that: > > (I) every F_n is differentiable, and the sequence > of the derivatives {f_n} pointwise converges to > some continuous function f:[a,b]->R, > (II) {F_n} pointwise converges to some > differentiable > function F:[a,b]->R. > > Can we have F'(x) =/= f(x) for some x in [a,b]? > > I've looked for an example, but unsuccessfully, > so I believe the answer is negative. > > Thank you very much for your attention. > My Best Regards, > Maury Barbato I start thinking that the answer is positive. I made the followiing conjecture. There exists some sequence {F_n} of differentiable functions F_n:[0,1]->R such that: (I) {F_n} converges uniformly to F(x) = x. (II) the sequence of the derivatives {f_n} pointwise converges to f(x) = 0. What do you think about? My Best Regards, Maury Barbato
From: Dave L. Renfro on 27 May 2010 11:19 Maury Barbato wrote: > I wrote: >> Hello, >> let R be the field of real numbers. Let {F_n} be >> a sequence of functions F_n:[a,b]->R such that: > >> (I) every F_n is differentiable, and the sequence >> of the derivatives {f_n} pointwise converges to >> some continuous function f:[a,b]->R, >> (II) {F_n} pointwise converges to some >> differentiable >> function F:[a,b]->R. > >> Can we have F'(x) =/= f(x) for some x in [a,b]? > >> I've looked for an example, but unsuccessfully, >> so I believe the answer is negative. > >> Thank you very much for your attention. >> My Best Regards, >> Maury Barbato > > I start thinking that the answer is positive. > I made the followiing conjecture. There exists some > sequence {F_n} of differentiable functions > F_n:[0,1]->R such that: > > (I) {F_n} converges uniformly to F(x) = x. > > (II) the sequence of the derivatives {f_n} pointwise > converges to f(x) = 0. > > What do you think about? Perhaps something in the following post will be of use: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/c23ad1dc3bded876 Dave L. Renfro
From: Maury Barbato on 28 May 2010 01:22 Dave L. Renfro wrote: > Maury Barbato wrote: > > > I wrote: > >> Hello, > >> let R be the field of real numbers. Let {F_n} be > >> a sequence of functions F_n:[a,b]->R such that: > > > >> (I) every F_n is differentiable, and the sequence > >> of the derivatives {f_n} pointwise converges to > >> some continuous function f:[a,b]->R, > >> (II) {F_n} pointwise converges to some > >> differentiable > >> function F:[a,b]->R. > > > >> Can we have F'(x) =/= f(x) for some x in [a,b]? > > > >> I've looked for an example, but unsuccessfully, > >> so I believe the answer is negative. > > > >> Thank you very much for your attention. > >> My Best Regards, > >> Maury Barbato > > > > I start thinking that the answer is positive. > > I made the followiing conjecture. There exists some > > sequence {F_n} of differentiable functions > > F_n:[0,1]->R such that: > > > > (I) {F_n} converges uniformly to F(x) = x. > > > > (II) the sequence of the derivatives {f_n} > pointwise > > converges to f(x) = 0. > > > > What do you think about? > > Perhaps something in the following post will be of > use: > > http://groups.google.com/group/sci.math/msg/c23ad1dc3b > ded876 > > Dave L. Renfro I'm quite surprised by th fact that someone examined similar problems before. I completely ignored Darji's paper. Even if it doesn't contain an answer to my question (his results about continuous derivatives assume that every f_n is continuous, not that f is continuous), they are very interesting, and I'm driven to think that my question has a negative answer. Thank you so much, Dave, for having acquainted me with these former investigations. Friendly Regards, Maury Barbato
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