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From: J. P. Gilliver (John) on 28 Mar 2010 07:17 In message <fn7sq55kcgle2nfla7clrluqtia8acgiki(a)4ax.com>, "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> writes: > >On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:20:31 -0000, "Tim Meddick" ><timmeddick(a)gawab.com> wrote: > >> Every copy of Windows is different - you can't just "paste" in any >>old "key" into any >> copy of Windows - no, each key is unique to that copy (cd-rom) it was >>made for. > > >Sorry, but that's *not* correct. Keys are not made for each CD. Each >key is unique, but the CDs are not, so any key will work with a CD >that it matches with respect to Home vs. Professional, Retail vs >Generic OEM, Full vs Upgrade). > Well done: that's what I was trying to say, but you managed to say it in far fewer words (and thus much easier to understand)! I suspect Tim actually meant that anyway, too. -- J. P. Gilliver. 27 years experience in the electronics industry - seeking employment (also computer, tester, trainer ...); email for details: CV at http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/CV2010-3.tif (2-sheet TIFF)! Computers make it easy for humans to make mistakes that are hard to fix - Thomas Landauer (author and psychiatry professor), quoted by Colin Barker (Computing 1999-2-18, p. 21)
From: Ken Blake, MVP on 28 Mar 2010 15:00 On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:17:32 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG(a)soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote: > In message <fn7sq55kcgle2nfla7clrluqtia8acgiki(a)4ax.com>, "Ken Blake, > MVP" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> writes: > > > >On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:20:31 -0000, "Tim Meddick" > ><timmeddick(a)gawab.com> wrote: > > > >> Every copy of Windows is different - you can't just "paste" in any > >>old "key" into any > >> copy of Windows - no, each key is unique to that copy (cd-rom) it was > >>made for. > > > > > >Sorry, but that's *not* correct. Keys are not made for each CD. Each > >key is unique, but the CDs are not, so any key will work with a CD > >that it matches with respect to Home vs. Professional, Retail vs > >Generic OEM, Full vs Upgrade). > > > Well done: that's what I was trying to say, but you managed to say it in > far fewer words (and thus much easier to understand)! > > I suspect Tim actually meant that anyway, too. Perhaps that's what Tim meant, but I didn't read it way, so I thought I'd clarify it. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup
From: Tim Meddick on 28 Mar 2010 15:27 (To others who generously thought I meant something else - I didn't - sorry) Well, I tried entering a valid key into (all non-OEM) copies of Win98, WinME and WinNT4 and none of those ever worked!! What makes XP so different that it will accept unique keys from any similar XP version? == Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake(a)this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message news:fn7sq55kcgle2nfla7clrluqtia8acgiki(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 21:20:31 -0000, "Tim Meddick" > <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> wrote: > >> Every copy of Windows is different - you can't just "paste" in any old "key" into >> any >> copy of Windows - no, each key is unique to that copy (cd-rom) it was made for. > > > Sorry, but that's *not* correct. Keys are not made for each CD. Each > key is unique, but the CDs are not, so any key will work with a CD > that it matches with respect to Home vs. Professional, Retail vs > Generic OEM, Full vs Upgrade). > > -- > Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 > Please Reply to the Newsgroup
From: J. P. Gilliver (John) on 28 Mar 2010 20:30 In message <ei62yyqzKHA.1236(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Tim Meddick <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> writes: >(To others who generously thought I meant something else - I didn't - sorry) > >Well, I tried entering a valid key into (all non-OEM) copies of Win98, >WinME and WinNT4 and none of those ever worked!! In what sense was it "a valid key"? For what? (Though I do remember - a _long_ time ago - finding that a key from one Microsoft product worked with another: I think that might have been Windows 95 and Office 95. But as I say, that was a long time ago. Almost certainly not now.) > >What makes XP so different that it will accept unique keys from any >similar XP version? [] I think what Ken and I mean is this: the CDs are not made individually - they're mass-produced, much like audio CDs. (For a long time I've wondered why they _don't_ make a CD with a tiny writable part, but they don't.) [XP isn't different in this respect.] If you were to obtain two CDs for the same product - two retail copies of XP, 98, Office, or probably even Vista or 7 - then as long as they were _exactly_ the same product (Home or Pro, retail or OEM, if OEM for the same batch of hardware), then the same key would work with both - until you went online to register the second one, at least. But it _would_ get you through the installation process. -- J. P. Gilliver. 27 years experience in the electronics industry - seeking employment (also computer, tester, trainer ...); email for details: CV at http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/CV2010-3.tif (2-sheet TIFF)! War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce, writer (1842-1914)
From: Tim Meddick on 29 Mar 2010 14:14
That IS what I'm saying - I can't be any clearer. I had [have] copies of WinME, Win98se and WinNT4 and they come with keys (that work). On entering other keys that I know work with other [respective] versions of each, they simply do not work. Why is this, if, as you two keep saying, XP can use *any* valid key for any [sub-version] copy of Windows? == Cheers, Tim Meddick, Peckham, London. :-) "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG(a)soft255.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:n7yYoQlvS$rLFw4m(a)soft255.demon.co.uk... > In message <ei62yyqzKHA.1236(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl>, Tim Meddick > <timmeddick(a)gawab.com> writes: >>(To others who generously thought I meant something else - I didn't - sorry) >> >>Well, I tried entering a valid key into (all non-OEM) copies of Win98, >>WinME and WinNT4 and none of those ever worked!! > > In what sense was it "a valid key"? For what? (Though I do remember - a _long_ time > ago - finding that a key from one Microsoft product worked with another: I think > that might have been Windows 95 and Office 95. But as I say, that was a long time > ago. Almost certainly not now.) >> >>What makes XP so different that it will accept unique keys from any similar XP >>version? > [] > I think what Ken and I mean is this: the CDs are not made individually - they're > mass-produced, much like audio CDs. (For a long time I've wondered why they _don't_ > make a CD with a tiny writable part, but they don't.) [XP isn't different in this > respect.] If you were to obtain two CDs for the same product - two retail copies of > XP, 98, Office, or probably even Vista or 7 - then as long as they were _exactly_ > the same product (Home or Pro, retail or OEM, if OEM for the same batch of > hardware), then the same key would work with both - until you went online to > register the second one, at least. But it _would_ get you through the installation > process. > -- > J. P. Gilliver. 27 years experience in the electronics industry - seeking > employment (also computer, tester, trainer ...); email for details: CV at > http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/CV2010-3.tif (2-sheet TIFF)! > > War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce, writer > (1842-1914) |