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From: Eric on 1 Apr 2010 00:08
In article
<Pine.LNX.4.64.1003311604580.26535(a)zen.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>,
Andreas Prilop <prilop4321(a)trashmail.net> wrote:

> On Wed, 31 Mar 2010, Eric wrote:
>
> > I am seeking a good looking print stylesheet, especially for A4 (or US
> > Letter) on a B&W printer. My screen stylesheet is a little too elaborate
> > to work well for printing from some browsers, and would waste ink on
> > colours and so on.
>
> You do not need a complete separate stylesheet for printing.
> You specify only those rules in your print stylesheet that should be
> different from your screen stylesheet. Here a few suggestions:
>
> a { background: transparent ; color: black ; text-decoration: none }
> body { background: white ; color: black ; margin: 0 }
> h1 { margin-top: 0 }
> .newpage { margin-top: 0 ; page-break-before: always }
> .noprint { display: none }

Thanks for those suggestions. So far I am using

body, html { color: black;
background-color: white;
font-family: serif;
font-size: 12pt; }
a { background: transparent;
color: #000000;
text-decoration: none; }
div.nav { display: none; }
h1 { margin-top: 0; }
/* Page break for each new date */
h2 { margin-bottom: 0;
margin-top: 0;
page-break-before: always; }
/* Except the first date - Direct adjacent sibling combinators selecting
h2 after the first h1 */
h1 + h2 { page-break-before: avoid; }
/* Direct adjacent sibling combinators selecting no display of the last
h1 but not the first */
div + h1 { display: none; }

I am also wondering about my use of font-family: serif;
I know there are all sorts of traps in some choices of font, especially
between platforms. Does anyone happen to have a suggested list for
printing?
From: Albert Ross on 17 Apr 2010 08:16
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:08:06 +1000, Eric <eric(a)ericlindsay.com> wrote:


>I am also wondering about my use of font-family: serif;
>I know there are all sorts of traps in some choices of font, especially
>between platforms. Does anyone happen to have a suggested list for
>printing?

My name is Albert and I am a fontaholic

Hi Albert!

That really is a how long is a piece of string question. I have
thousands of the bastards, though I only use a few dozen regularly. I
have a secret love for Garamond but not everyone will agree or even
have one on their box, and I have a slightly irrational dislike of
having Times New Roman forced upon me when I could be using something
more elegant.

Having said which, you could start with a font of your choice, have
Times New Roman and Serif as second choices, that'd probably cover all
eventualities
From: David C. Stone on 17 Apr 2010 09:44
On Apr 17, 8:16 am, Albert Ross <s...(a)devnull.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:08:06 +1000, Eric <e...(a)ericlindsay.com> wrote:
> >I am also wondering about my use of font-family: serif;
> >I know there are all sorts of traps in some choices of font, especially
> >between platforms. Does anyone happen to have a suggested list for
> >printing?
>
> My name is Albert and I am a fontaholic
>
> Hi Albert!
>
> That really is a how long is a piece of string question. I have
> thousands of the bastards, though I only use a few dozen regularly. I
> have a secret love for Garamond but not everyone will agree or even
> have one on their box, and I have a slightly irrational dislike of
> having Times New Roman forced upon me when I could be using something
> more elegant.

The problem with Garamond (or the version installed on my box at
least)
is that it does not have as many variants. So, I can have bold or
italic,
but not both. The implications of this were discussed here
extensively
a short while ago so I won't rehash but, depending on the page in
question,
a fontaholic might not be entirely pleased with the results.



From: Eric on 17 Apr 2010 17:09
In article <n89js5te5tc5f8vlmi7gr64uv1gpesbhe8(a)4ax.com>,
Albert Ross <spam(a)devnull.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

> On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:08:06 +1000, Eric <eric(a)ericlindsay.com> wrote:
>
>
> >I am also wondering about my use of font-family: serif;
> >I know there are all sorts of traps in some choices of font, especially
> >between platforms. Does anyone happen to have a suggested list for
> >printing?
>
> My name is Albert and I am a fontaholic
> That really is a how long is a piece of string question. I have
> thousands of the bastards, though I only use a few dozen regularly. I
> have a secret love for Garamond but not everyone will agree or even
> have one on their box, and I have a slightly irrational dislike of
> having Times New Roman forced upon me when I could be using something
> more elegant.
>
> Having said which, you could start with a font of your choice, have
> Times New Roman and Serif as second choices, that'd probably cover all
> eventualities

I have started with
font-family: "Hoefler Text", "Calisto MT", Palatino, Georgia, "Times New
Roman", serif;

Not sure how widespread Hoefler Text is, so I am using Calisto MT as a
fallback, and then through Palatino before the Georgia which seems more
a screen font. I am pretty sure Time New Roman is almost always used as
the default serif font anyway. All show as having a full range of
regular, italic, bold and bold italic.

I guess I will revise that after I do some print tests.
From: David C. Stone on 18 Apr 2010 11:15
On Apr 17, 5:09 pm, Eric <e...(a)ericlindsay.com> wrote:
> In article <n89js5te5tc5f8vlmi7gr64uv1gpesb...(a)4ax.com>,
>  Albert Ross <s...(a)devnull.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> > On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:08:06 +1000, Eric <e...(a)ericlindsay.com> wrote:
>
> > >I am also wondering about my use of font-family: serif;
> > >I know there are all sorts of traps in some choices of font, especially
> > >between platforms. Does anyone happen to have a suggested list for
> > >printing?
>
> > My name is Albert and I am a fontaholic
> > That really is a how long is a piece of string question. I have
> > thousands of the bastards, though I only use a few dozen regularly. I
> > have a secret love for Garamond but not everyone will agree or even
> > have one on their box, and I have a slightly irrational dislike of
> > having Times New Roman forced upon me when I could be using something
> > more elegant.
>
> > Having said which, you could start with a font of your choice, have
> > Times New Roman and Serif as second choices, that'd probably cover all
> > eventualities
>
> I have started with
> font-family: "Hoefler Text", "Calisto MT", Palatino, Georgia, "Times New
> Roman", serif;
>
> Not sure how widespread Hoefler Text is, so I am using Calisto MT as a
> fallback, and then through Palatino before the Georgia which seems more
> a screen font. I am pretty sure Time New Roman is almost always used as
> the default serif font anyway. All show as having a full range of
> regular, italic, bold and bold italic.

I'm not sure about either Hoefler or Calisto! I used to use Palatino
a lot in presentations until I found it wasn't as common on PCs.
I think you'll find the default serif font is more likely to be Times
than
Times New Roman.
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