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From: David Stone on 1 Apr 2010 09:20
Today's Dilbert cartoon appears to feature a visit to ciwas:

http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2010-04-01/

"Needs work", eh?
From: Albert Ross on 2 Apr 2010 13:58
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:20:36 -0400, David Stone
<no.email(a)domain.invalid> wrote:

>Today's Dilbert cartoon appears to feature a visit to ciwas:
>
>http://www.dilbert.com/fast/2010-04-01/
>
>"Needs work", eh?

Hehe

OK bad time to ask I suppose

http://www.combines.org.uk/Combines/intro.html

needs a bit of cleaning up since I'm reusing some of the code in other
sites, which will need different bits cleaning out

I used some recommendations from here (and elsewhere) for the
different code modules.

So far it works in every browser I've hit it with but I lack some of
the older IEs etc.

Two questions:-

[1] Matthew James Taylor's 3 column template is one of the best I've
found, but is in xhtml. The rest of it is in html 4.0

Would you convert one to t'other or not bother?

[2] I'm having brain farts trying to get the navbar <ul> centred.
Everything else I can do no problem.

If you want to see what I'm aiming for, look at the New Holland
website (right hand bar). I'm trying to do the exact opposite <G>
From: dorayme on 2 Apr 2010 14:43
In article <ribcr5ppneo0bkhoebf1u69e01pe9uuumo(a)4ax.com>,
Albert Ross <spam(a)devnull.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

> http://www.combines.org.uk/Combines/intro.html
>
> needs a bit of cleaning up since I'm reusing some of the code in other
> sites, which will need different bits cleaning out
>
> I used some recommendations from here (and elsewhere) for the
> different code modules.
>
> So far it works in every browser I've hit it with but I lack some of
> the older IEs etc.
>
> Two questions:-
>
> [1] Matthew James Taylor's 3 column template is one of the best I've
> found, but is in xhtml. The rest of it is in html 4.0
>

The rest of what?

....

> [2] I'm having brain farts trying to get the navbar <ul> centred.
> Everything else I can do no problem.
>

Yes, I can see attempts but the problem with your #header ul is
the float. Once you have that, you shoot yourself in the foot for
your real aim. Get rid of it and simply keep your auto margins
(just margin:auto is simpler btw) and no good having width 100%
(what would be left to auto margin?), calculate a reasonable em
width for the sum of the characters (and spaces) you have (add a
little for paddings and margins if you have any. 40 to 50em
should do the trick.

--
dorayme
From: Beauregard T. Shagnasty on 2 Apr 2010 16:23
Albert Ross wrote:

> [1] Matthew James Taylor's 3 column template is one of the best I've
> found, but is in xhtml. The rest of it is in html 4.0
>
> Would you convert one to t'other or not bother?

I don't see what might be called "html 4.0" in Matthew's template. What
I would do (and did, preparing a template for a friend) is change the
doctype to:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">

and change all those " />" to just ">". That should do it - then you
won't be accused of sending XHTML as text/html.

--
-bts
-Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul
From: Roy A. on 3 Apr 2010 02:53
On 2 apr, 22:23, "Beauregard T. Shagnasty"
<a.nony.m...(a)example.invalid> wrote:
> Albert Ross wrote:
> > [1] Matthew James Taylor's 3 column template is one of the best I've
> > found, but is in xhtml. The rest of it is in html 4.0
>
> > Would you convert one to t'other or not bother?
>
> I don't see what might be called "html 4.0" in Matthew's template. What
> I would do (and did, preparing a template for a friend) is change the
> doctype to:
>
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN"
>    "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
>
> and change all those " />" to just ">". That should do it - then you
> won't be accused of sending XHTML as text/html.

Yes, if you think serving your document as if it was SGML is anything
better.
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