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From: Graham H on 30 Apr 2010 06:57
We have as issue with the German section character § in our PowerPoint
templates (we are using Office 2003)

When it is inserted, the font for that character changes to another font
(usually "MS PGothic"). I have tried it with different PowerPoint templates,
plus blank PowerPoint templates and the issue still occurs, but not with all
fonts.

Steps to reproduce:
1: create new blank presentation
2: change font to Times New Roman
3: type some text (in Times new roman)
4: Insert the § character (ALT + 245 on teh numeric keypad)
5: you will see the character is inserted in anotehr font (Arial when I do
this test)

Does anyone know what this may be caused by? The character definitely
exists in the font set.

Could it be an issue with the underlying template(s), and if so, what could
the issue be?

Strangely, in Word (2003) the character is inserted properly, so we think it
is either a PowerPoint issue or a template issue.

From: Steve Rindsberg on 30 Apr 2010 11:26
In article <627E021F-C2E1-4B8D-BCAA-07E35FB95566(a)microsoft.com>, Graham H wrote:
> We have as issue with the German section character � in our PowerPoint
> templates (we are using Office 2003)
>
> When it is inserted, the font for that character changes to another font
> (usually "MS PGothic"). I have tried it with different PowerPoint templates,
> plus blank PowerPoint templates and the issue still occurs, but not with all
> fonts.
>
> Steps to reproduce:
> 1: create new blank presentation
> 2: change font to Times New Roman
> 3: type some text (in Times new roman)
> 4: Insert the � character (ALT + 245 on teh numeric keypad)
> 5: you will see the character is inserted in anotehr font (Arial when I do
> this test)

It should be Alt+0167, no? That gives me: �

And here it works fine when inserted from the keyboard.

If you're using Insert, Symbol then choosing from the "Recently used symbols"
area at the bottom of the dialog box, I'd suggest using this approach:

Don't.

;-) It's buggy and tends to insert symbols in the wrong font. Pretty much like
what you're seeing.


>
> Does anyone know what this may be caused by? The character definitely
> exists in the font set.
>
> Could it be an issue with the underlying template(s), and if so, what could
> the issue be?
>
> Strangely, in Word (2003) the character is inserted properly, so we think it
> is either a PowerPoint issue or a template issue.


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From: Graham H on 30 Apr 2010 16:45
Thanks for this - we definitely tried ALT+245 and that works (in the office),
but on my home PC, that gives me ⌡, whereas ALT+0167 gives me §

On a German keyboard (I believe) this character exists as a key, so no ALT+
numeric keypad required.

Are there built in fonts to a PowerPoint template (like Word), ones that you
can add/remove via an organizer? I suspect it may be an underlying template
issue. In our office environment, we create the new template from a .POT
(if I remember rightly) and the fonts we use should be in there.

"Steve Rindsberg" wrote:

> In article <627E021F-C2E1-4B8D-BCAA-07E35FB95566(a)microsoft.com>, Graham H wrote:
> > We have as issue with the German section character § in our PowerPoint
> > templates (we are using Office 2003)
> >
> > When it is inserted, the font for that character changes to another font
> > (usually "MS PGothic"). I have tried it with different PowerPoint templates,
> > plus blank PowerPoint templates and the issue still occurs, but not with all
> > fonts.
> >
> > Steps to reproduce:
> > 1: create new blank presentation
> > 2: change font to Times New Roman
> > 3: type some text (in Times new roman)
> > 4: Insert the § character (ALT + 245 on teh numeric keypad)
> > 5: you will see the character is inserted in anotehr font (Arial when I do
> > this test)
>
> It should be Alt+0167, no? That gives me: §
>
> And here it works fine when inserted from the keyboard.
>
> If you're using Insert, Symbol then choosing from the "Recently used symbols"
> area at the bottom of the dialog box, I'd suggest using this approach:
>
> Don't.
>
> ;-) It's buggy and tends to insert symbols in the wrong font. Pretty much like
> what you're seeing.
>
>
> >
> > Does anyone know what this may be caused by? The character definitely
> > exists in the font set.
> >
> > Could it be an issue with the underlying template(s), and if so, what could
> > the issue be?
> >
> > Strangely, in Word (2003) the character is inserted properly, so we think it
> > is either a PowerPoint issue or a template issue.
>
>
> ==============================
> PPT Frequently Asked Questions
> http://www.pptfaq.com/
>
> PPTools add-ins for PowerPoint
> http://www.pptools.com/
>
>
> .
>
From: Steve Rindsberg on 1 May 2010 13:44
In article <E9006E8A-DC7A-4428-8315-005E7405CDB7(a)microsoft.com>, Graham H wrote:
> Thanks for this - we definitely tried ALT+245 and that works (in the office),
> but on my home PC, that gives me ), whereas ALT+0167 gives me �

That's *odd*. If the fonts are the same on both computers, or even if the fonts are
different but with standard encoding, the ALT sequences should be the same, even if
the keyboards are set to different languages.

All I can think is that somehow the font's getting substituted and the substitute is
a symbol font or something along those lines.

> On a German keyboard (I believe) this character exists as a key, so no ALT+
> numeric keypad required.
>
> Are there built in fonts to a PowerPoint template (like Word), ones that you
> can add/remove via an organizer? I suspect it may be an underlying template
> issue. In our office environment, we create the new template from a .POT
> (if I remember rightly) and the fonts we use should be in there.

Fonts ... some fonts, but not all ... can be embedded into a PPT file. I haven't
tested but I suspect that if you base a new presentation on a POT with embedded
fonts, the new presentation will also have those fonts embedded.

Try this: Open the presentation, choose Format, Replace Fonts.
Find the font in question in the upper list box ... what's the icon to the left of
the font?



>
> "Steve Rindsberg" wrote:
>
> > In article <627E021F-C2E1-4B8D-BCAA-07E35FB95566(a)microsoft.com>, Graham H wrote:
> > > We have as issue with the German section character � in our PowerPoint
> > > templates (we are using Office 2003)
> > >
> > > When it is inserted, the font for that character changes to another font
> > > (usually "MS PGothic"). I have tried it with different PowerPoint templates,
> > > plus blank PowerPoint templates and the issue still occurs, but not with all
> > > fonts.
> > >
> > > Steps to reproduce:
> > > 1: create new blank presentation
> > > 2: change font to Times New Roman
> > > 3: type some text (in Times new roman)
> > > 4: Insert the � character (ALT + 245 on teh numeric keypad)
> > > 5: you will see the character is inserted in anotehr font (Arial when I do
> > > this test)
> >
> > It should be Alt+0167, no? That gives me: �
> >
> > And here it works fine when inserted from the keyboard.
> >
> > If you're using Insert, Symbol then choosing from the "Recently used symbols"
> > area at the bottom of the dialog box, I'd suggest using this approach:
> >
> > Don't.
> >
> > ;-) It's buggy and tends to insert symbols in the wrong font. Pretty much like
> > what you're seeing.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Does anyone know what this may be caused by? The character definitely
> > > exists in the font set.
> > >
> > > Could it be an issue with the underlying template(s), and if so, what could
> > > the issue be?
> > >
> > > Strangely, in Word (2003) the character is inserted properly, so we think it
> > > is either a PowerPoint issue or a template issue.
> >
> >
> > ==============================
> > PPT Frequently Asked Questions
> > http://www.pptfaq.com/
> >
> > PPTools add-ins for PowerPoint
> > http://www.pptools.com/
> >
> >
> > .
> >


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From: Graham H on 6 May 2010 09:33
If if try and Replace Fonts I see "?" to teh left of teh font - I suspect it
has not been installed in the template properly? How can we rectify this?
(It seems to work ok in some other templates of ours, just not a couple of
recent ones - we must have done something...)

"Graham H" wrote:

> We have as issue with the German section character § in our PowerPoint
> templates (we are using Office 2003)
>
> When it is inserted, the font for that character changes to another font
> (usually "MS PGothic"). I have tried it with different PowerPoint templates,
> plus blank PowerPoint templates and the issue still occurs, but not with all
> fonts.
>
> Steps to reproduce:
> 1: create new blank presentation
> 2: change font to Times New Roman
> 3: type some text (in Times new roman)
> 4: Insert the § character (ALT + 245 on teh numeric keypad)
> 5: you will see the character is inserted in anotehr font (Arial when I do
> this test)
>
> Does anyone know what this may be caused by? The character definitely
> exists in the font set.
>
> Could it be an issue with the underlying template(s), and if so, what could
> the issue be?
>
> Strangely, in Word (2003) the character is inserted properly, so we think it
> is either a PowerPoint issue or a template issue.
>
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