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From: 123Jim on 16 Jun 2010 12:18

"Shenan Stanley" <newshelper(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Should all the .nets and their associated KBs and hot fixes, etc be
>> removed as suggested to Kraut? If yes, will I get a popup telling me
>> to install these one or more of these .nets if a windows program
>> requires it in the future?
>
> Yes. Yes.
>
> But you will be reinstalling everyone of them if you do things correctly
> anyway - not just uninstalling to uninstall.
>
> --


I don't think it is necessary to remove the hotfixes .. how would you know
which ones are related to .Net? well of course it is information that is
available somewhere .. but I just don't think it is necessary ...

Here's the info I posted on alt.hardware where someone else has the exact
same problems:

[[ Delete all your .NET frameworks in Add-Remove Programs .. don't bother
with
the updates .. so ~don't~ choose to select show updates.

Click on the links here http://support.microsoft.com/kb/976982
to download .NET frameworks
Install them in the order indicated.
then reboot
then check for updates ]]

This ~has gotta~ work ;)


From: Twayne on 16 Jun 2010 12:49
In news:hv79fr$n60$1(a)news.eternal-september.org,
123Jim <jnkjnjnini(a)uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> typed:
> "kraut" <kraut3852(a)yahoo.comg> wrote in message
> news:qk1e16hdvi1jh5p5idk050duvdbv2a6sbr(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 14:17:24 +0100, "123Jim"
>> <jnkjnjnini(a)uhnuhnunuhnuy.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>> Last Tuesday's windows update appears to have been
>>>> faulty - not all of the updates installed; specifically
>>>> Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 and .NET Framework 2.0
>>>> SP2 Security Update for Windows 2000, Windows Server
>>>> 2003, and Windows XP x86 (KB979909) Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 SP1
>>>> Security Update for
>>>> Windows 2000 and Windows XP (KB979906).
>>>>
>>>> After several tries with the same outcome..."unable to
>>>> install updates" I am wondering whether these two
>>>> updates are important; moreover, I cannot get rid of the
>>>> "Updates are ready for your computer, click here to
>>>> install these updates" icon in my system tray. Anyone else having a
>>>> similar experience? Any fixes
>>>> available?
>>>
>>>
>>> This is happening often to many people lately..
>>> go here:
>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058
>>> Use the 'fixit'
>>> ( .. downloaded but not yet installed updates are cleared
>>> and the updates process is reset)
>>> You will find that the uninstalled updates need to be
>>> downloaded again .. but it all happens in the usual
>>> automatic way
>>
>> When I go to install the updates kb979909 and kb982168 it
>> always show as being successful when it is not. Next time
>> they show up again but says they have been downloaded but
>> need to be installed. I was wondering where the downloads from windows
>> update
>> are stored on the system (What directory).
>>
>> Maybe if we could delete the download and redownload they
>> might install properly.
>>
>
>
> By running the 'fixit' here:
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/971058 those downloaded
> files are deleted and the update procedure is reset.
> You can do it manually, but there is a problem, as first
> you need to 'stop' the related update service on your
> computer, that is what the 'fixit' does automatically.
>
> If it is not working, the next thing to try would be: run
> the fixit, then open 'Task Manager' (right click task bar,
> choose 'task manager') Now go through the processes list,
> selecting and stopping 'end process' on many processes,
> Hopefully you will stop a process that is causing a problem
> with your windows updates. (I recently found that an HP
> update process was causing a problem). When you have done that go to:
> http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/ Choose to 'Get
> high-priority updates ' with the Express button.

Excellent point and something I'd forgotten about. In my case it was a
javaw.exe in the HP folders causing the problem/s. It took a complete
removal, including the registry, and then a reinstall of the HP drivers and
Toolbox to get it taken care of. After insisting many times that it was not
an HP issue, they finally admitted they HAD heard of the problem. However,
it has never been fixed and AFAIK they never acknowledged it online or
anywhere else. I've forgotten now what it was inter-acting with. Both
instances I came across were with the "n" version of the HP Laserjet Color
Printers; 2550n and 2510n IIRC but don't quote me on that.
N O T E : There are several "javaw.exe" files spread around most
computers wth different purposes and different sizes. So replacing the
current javaw with one of those is unlikely to help the situation and likely
to make other things fail.

HTH,

Twayne`


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