From: Benj on
On Jun 4, 10:11 pm, Uncle Vic <addr...(a)withheld.com> wrote:

> So what exactly is a "Social Darwinist"?

Go look in a mirror!

> Scientists have dogma?  What if they discover something tested to be true
> that lies outside of this dogma?  Does the dogma change?  Can dogma change?

Do scientists have dogma? You don't get around much, do you? If
experiment shows something true outside of dogma, scientists do what
priests of ANY religion (including atheism) do. They ridicule and
dismiss the results and attack the persons finding those results or
supporting them with ad hominem attacks. Usually to assert they are
"insane". We don't need to pay attention to the insane ramblings, do
we?

OF course "dogma" needs to change. One needs to "smash" dogma because
dogma is not logic or science.

From: Benj on
On Jun 7, 8:54 am, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:59:04 -0700 (PDT), Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net>
> wrote:
>
> >The problem here isn't "drivel" it is the clash of two scientific
> >viewpoints.
>
> No, it's a clash between a scientific viewpoint and unsupported
> woo-woo.

Ah yes. "proof by asssertion". I know that always has me loosing every
debate! Let's face it, pal, Social Darwin is your religion and you'll
never deny it's dogma no matter HOW may facts are staring you in the
face. None so blind...etc.

You have no idea what true science is or how it works.

From: Olrik on
Le 2010-06-08 01:25, Benj a �crit :
> On Jun 7, 8:54 am, raven1<quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:59:04 -0700 (PDT), Benj<bjac...(a)iwaynet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The problem here isn't "drivel" it is the clash of two scientific
>>> viewpoints.
>>
>> No, it's a clash between a scientific viewpoint and unsupported
>> woo-woo.
>
> Ah yes. "proof by asssertion". I know that always has me loosing every
> debate! Let's face it, pal, Social Darwin is your religion and you'll
> never deny it's dogma no matter HOW may facts

Present one.

> are staring you in the
> face. None so blind...etc.
>
> You have no idea what true science is or how it works.

Tell us about it.

Many thanks!

Olrik

From: Benj on
On Jun 8, 1:29 am, Olrik <olrik...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> > Ah yes. "proof by asssertion". I know that always has me loosing every
> > debate!  Let's face it, pal, Social Darwin is your religion and you'll
> > never deny it's dogma no matter HOW may facts

> Present one.

Sorry Olrik, but I only pointed out the nature of the debate. I'm not
taking sides in it (no matter how I might be painted by your side).
So I'm not here to spoon feed you facts relevant to EITHER viewpoint.
And apparently even if I did you'd just deny them as your dogma
rejects any such suggestions.


> > are staring you in the
> > face. None so blind...etc.
>
> > You have no idea what true science is or how it works.

> Tell us about it.

And thus, I am also not here to provide you with a science education.
There are still a few places where such can still be found. Seek one
out.



From: raven1 on
On Mon, 7 Jun 2010 22:25:52 -0700 (PDT), Benj <bjacoby(a)iwaynet.net>
wrote:

>On Jun 7, 8:54�am, raven1 <quoththera...(a)nevermore.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 4 Jun 2010 12:59:04 -0700 (PDT), Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The problem here isn't "drivel" it is the clash of two scientific
>> >viewpoints.
>>
>> No, it's a clash between a scientific viewpoint and unsupported
>> woo-woo.
>
>Ah yes. "proof by asssertion". I know that always has me loosing every
>debate!

How sad for you.

> Let's face it, pal, Social Darwin is your religion

I doubt you'll find many people espousing "Social Darwinism", nor is
it a religion in any meaningful sense of the word.

> and you'll
>never deny it's dogma

What dogma is that?

>no matter HOW may facts are staring you in the
>face.

Such as?

>None so blind...etc.
>
>You have no idea what true science is or how it works.

Enlighten us then, Einstein.