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From: Hayek on 17 Jul 2010 14:10
Inertial wrote:
> "kenseto" wrote in message
> news:305c986a-0096-4cdd-b8c6-5c2722776b27(a)e5g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
>
>>
>> On Jul 17, 8:42 am, "Inertial"
>> <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
>>> "kenseto" wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:9b9c3717-4960-49c7-a0b1-27efec9f8d01(a)s9g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Properties of a preferred frame: 1. The speed
>>>> of light is isotropic.
>>>
>>> nope .. that's the same in all inertial frames
>>
>> So all inertial frames claims the exclusive
>> properties of the preferred frame....that's all.
>
> Its not an exclusive property of one frame if all
> frames have it.

How about : the frame where a clock runs fastest.
Iow : at rest wrt the average mass distribution of the
surrounding mass, as in the Universe.

Uwe Hayek.

> So your statements is
> self-contradictory.
>
>>>> 2. The speed one-way or two way speed of light
>>>> is constant and it is
>>> , > not distance dependent....even if it is
>>> measured using physical meter
>>>> stick.
>>>
>>> nope .. that's the same in all inertial frames
>>
>> No idiot in SR the speed of light is a defined
>> constant.
>
> that's the same in all inertial frames.
>
>> In the preferred frame the speed of light is a
>> measured constant using physical ruler and
>> preferred clock second.
>
> that's the same in all inertial frames.
>
>>>> 3. A clock at rest in the preferred frame is
>>>> the fastest running clock in the universe....in
>>>> other words, all the clocks moving with the
>>>> preferred clock are running slower.
>>>
>>> if we're talking inertial frames, no correct
>>> clock is running fast. But observers at rest in
>>> one inerital frame will measure another moving
>>> clock as ticking slower
>>
>> Hey idiot....no measurement of a moving clock ever
>> been made.
>
> Wrong
>
>> The SR observer predicts that all clocks moving
>> wrt him are running slow.
>
> No .. he doesn't Observers at rest in some inertial
> frame will MEASURE the moving clock as slow. But
> they know that each clock is running at the same rate
> .. differences in clock sync make the measurement of
> a given moving clock slower
>
>>>> 4. The material length of a meter stick at rest
>>>> in the preferred frame is 1 meter long
>>>> materially.
>>>
>>> nope .. That's the same in all inertial frames
>>
>> So there is no material/physical length contraction
>> in all inertial frame as well as in the preferred
>> frame.
>
> I didn't say that
>
>> That means that all inertial framesclaims the
>> exclusive properties of the preferred frame.
>
> Its not an exclusive property of one frame if all
> frames have it. So your statements is
> self-contradictory.
>


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