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From: BURT on 4 Feb 2010 01:51
On Feb 3, 10:48 pm, Bill Penrose <dangerousb...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 4:46 pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
>
> > Isotope effect on enzyme kinetics.  About a liter will put you down.
>
> The ultimate undetectable murder weapon, assuming no one thinks to
> shove some body fluids in the mass spec.
>
> I suppose you can't get Gatorade in deuterated form?
>
> DB

Kinetic energy is mass. Light has no kinetic energy. It never
accelerated.

Mitch Raemsch
From: BURT on 4 Feb 2010 01:53
On Feb 3, 9:59 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
> Salmon Egg wrote:
> > In article <hkdf0102...(a)news5.newsguy.com>,
> >  "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
>
> >>> Deuterated potassium dihydrogen phosphate often designated as
> >>> KD*P, has some rather remarkable physical properties. Because of the
> >>> difference in mass between protons and deuterons. Its electrooptical
> >>> constants are much greater at room temperature than KDP. Their
> >>> ferroelectric curie temperatures also differ greatly.
>
> >> And this has what relevance?
>
> > I am loathe to answer because I do not want to spoon feed scientific
> > concepts. A little knowledge of statistical mechanics and
> > crystallography would fill in some of the gaps.
>
> > Because of deuteron's higher mass compared to protons, the vibration
> > frequencies of deuterated crystals are lower than that of fully
> > protonated crystals. The vibrational speeds will be lower and the bulk
> > behavior of the crystal is changed. These vibrations affect the
> > ferroelectric behavior of the crystals in no small way. In solution,
> > the speed of the deuterons at a given temperature will be lower than
> > that of protons or even D3O+ ions. This will affect the kinetics
> > Uncle Al referred to.
>
> > Thus deuterated compounds often have significantly different physical
> > properties compared to undeuterated ones
>
>> Look, you're the one going off on some potassium compound.  Maybe you should
> try some Ritalin.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
> Figure out for yourself how physical properties can affect
physiology.
>


When you move you have weight in the opposite direction in your body.

Mitch Raemsch
From: Frank on 4 Feb 2010 08:02
On Feb 4, 12:00 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 3, 8:24 pm, Salmon Egg <Salmon...(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <hkdf0102...(a)news5.newsguy.com>,
> >  "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote:
>
> > > > Deuterated potassium dihydrogen phosphate often designated as
> > > > KD*P, has some rather remarkable physical properties. Because of the
> > > > difference in mass between protons and deuterons. Its electrooptical
> > > > constants are much greater at room temperature than KDP. Their
> > > > ferroelectric curie temperatures also differ greatly.
>
> > > And this has what relevance?
>
> > I am loathe to answer because I do not want to spoon feed scientific
> > concepts. A little knowledge of statistical mechanics and
> > crystallography would fill in some of the gaps.
>
> > Because of deuteron's higher mass compared to protons, the vibration
> > frequencies of deuterated crystals are lower than that of fully
> > protonated crystals. The vibrational speeds will be lower and the bulk
> > behavior of the crystal is changed. These vibrations affect the
> > ferroelectric behavior of the crystals in no small way. In solution, the
> > speed of the deuterons at a given temperature will be lower than that of
> > protons or even D3O+ ions. This will affect the kinetics Uncle Al
> > referred to.
>
> > Thus deuterated compounds often have significantly different physical
> > properties compared to undeuterated ones
>
> > Figure out for yourself how physical properties can affect physiology.
>
> > Bill
>
> > --
> > An old man would be better off never having been born.
>
> Heavy water is hot water. The flow of electricity is a quantum
> mechanical vibration to the next atom.
>
> Mitch Raemsch- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Uncle Al is right - you are a numbnut ;)
From: Salmon Egg on 4 Feb 2010 12:42
In article
<21a29146-a7c3-4e9a-974b-cc7937ed1c38(a)w27g2000pre.googlegroups.com>,
Bill Penrose <dangerousbill(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> On Feb 3, 4:46�pm, Uncle Al <Uncle...(a)hate.spam.net> wrote:
> > Isotope effect on enzyme kinetics. �About a liter will put you down.
>
> The ultimate undetectable murder weapon, assuming no one thinks to
> shove some body fluids in the mass spec.
>
> I suppose you can't get Gatorade in deuterated form?
>
> DB

I expect that gas chromatography or even liquid chromatography could
find excess DHO or D2O. But I am not an expert.

Bill

--
An old man would be better off never having been born.
From: Salmon Egg on 4 Feb 2010 12:44
In article
<b83613f6-24f3-4ee4-b37d-dd716493199a(a)s36g2000prh.googlegroups.com>,
BURT <macromitch(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Kinetic energy is mass. Light has no kinetic energy. It never
> accelerated.

To use a Pauli expression, this isn't even wrong.

Bill

--
An old man would be better off never having been born.
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