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From: Ron on 25 Mar 2010 21:28
On 3/25/2010 5:55 PM, Charlie Wilkes wrote:
> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:45:47 -0700, Ron wrote:
>
>> On 3/25/2010 5:20 AM, Agent_C wrote:
>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 05:08:04 -0700, Charlie Wilkes
>>> <usexpedition(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Board Asus M4A77TD $ 84
>>>> CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition $105
>>>> RAM Corsair XMS3 DHX 2 GB - 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) $ 59
>>>> Graphics card 1GB HP/Asus Radeon Hd 4850 DDR3 256bit $100
>>>> HDD Western Digital Caviar Black 500 GB WD5001AALS $ 66
>>>> Case Antec THREE HUNDRED CASE ATX MID TOWER BLACK W/O PSU $ 59
>>>>
>>>> TOTAL $473
>>>
>>>
>>> * I have the Caviar Black 1TB drive and it's outstanding - Faster than
>>> any non SCSI drive I've ever owned. Quite and cool as well.
>>>
>>> * If you're running Win7 double up on the memory.
>>>
>>> A_C
>>
>> I also have that Caviar drive - true, fast and no problems. Btw, Windows
>> 7 *will* run nicely with 2 gigs of memory, but since you're planning to
>> all that HD video work, A_C's right, 4 gigs will make a difference,
>> especially since you're sacrificing a little of your RAM with the 1GB
>> video card.
>>
>> Ron Moore
>
> If I'm running 32bit windows with the right updates, doesn't the OS use the
> full 2gb of RAM plus the 1gb on the card?

The video graphic card doesn't do much of the work when it comes to
video-editing, although there are exceptions. Increasing the memory size
gives you more resolution and color depth options, but no increase in
overall speed. The OS uses its' RAM to run the video card; the work the
card does depends on that RAM. In other words, a 1GB card will do your
video work nicely, but it needs the system RAM to operate and draws down
on that.

hth

Ron
From: Charlie Wilkes on 25 Mar 2010 23:37
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:28:24 -0700, Ron wrote:

> On 3/25/2010 5:55 PM, Charlie Wilkes wrote:
>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:45:47 -0700, Ron wrote:
>>
>>> On 3/25/2010 5:20 AM, Agent_C wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 05:08:04 -0700, Charlie Wilkes
>>>> <usexpedition(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Board Asus M4A77TD $ 84
>>>>> CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition $105
>>>>> RAM Corsair XMS3 DHX 2 GB - 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) $ 59
>>>>> Graphics card 1GB HP/Asus Radeon Hd 4850 DDR3 256bit $100
>>>>> HDD Western Digital Caviar Black 500 GB WD5001AALS $ 66
>>>>> Case Antec THREE HUNDRED CASE ATX MID TOWER BLACK W/O PSU $ 59
>>>>>
>>>>> TOTAL $473
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * I have the Caviar Black 1TB drive and it's outstanding - Faster than
>>>> any non SCSI drive I've ever owned. Quite and cool as well.
>>>>
>>>> * If you're running Win7 double up on the memory.
>>>>
>>>> A_C
>>>
>>> I also have that Caviar drive - true, fast and no problems. Btw, Windows
>>> 7 *will* run nicely with 2 gigs of memory, but since you're planning to
>>> all that HD video work, A_C's right, 4 gigs will make a difference,
>>> especially since you're sacrificing a little of your RAM with the 1GB
>>> video card.
>>>
>>> Ron Moore
>>
>> If I'm running 32bit windows with the right updates, doesn't the OS use the
>> full 2gb of RAM plus the 1gb on the card?
>
> The video graphic card doesn't do much of the work when it comes to
> video-editing, although there are exceptions. Increasing the memory size
> gives you more resolution and color depth options, but no increase in
> overall speed. The OS uses its' RAM to run the video card; the work the
> card does depends on that RAM. In other words, a 1GB card will do your
> video work nicely, but it needs the system RAM to operate and draws down
> on that.
>
> hth
>
> Ron

Thanks, that is helpful. ATI claims this card speeds up rendering. For $100
the 1gb OEM pulls look like the best value. If the XFX card wasn't $15
more, I'd go with it because it has better cooling. But I can rig up extra
cooling if I need it.
From: "nobody >" on 26 Mar 2010 00:06
Steve wrote:
> In article <ydjqpi9sw263.18y9ac7462s6c$.dlg(a)40tude.net>,
> usexpedition(a)gmail.com says...
>> I'm scoping a cheap system to replace the one I assembled four years ago,
>> which chokes on blu ray movies. Here is what I came up with:
>>
>>
>> Board Asus M4A77TD $ 84
>> CPU AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition $105
>> RAM Corsair XMS3 DHX 2 GB - 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) $ 59
>> Graphics card 1GB HP/Asus Radeon Hd 4850 DDR3 256bit $100
>> HDD Western Digital Caviar Black 500 GB WD5001AALS $ 66
>> Case Antec THREE HUNDRED CASE ATX MID TOWER BLACK W/O PSU $ 59
>>
>> TOTAL $473
>>
>> Mainly I want something that can handle HD video - playing, ripping, and
>> rendering. For now I am going to stick with XP, although I will probably
>> want to add more RAM and install a 64-bit OS down the road. I will want to
>> overclock but not to the absolute max. I have two good optical drives,
>> including a blu ray drive, as well as a new 650w antec PSU.
>>
>> Can I do much better than this without spending much more money?
>>
>> The 1600 mhz RAM is the same price as the 1333 mhz. Is there any reason why
>> I might want 1333 mhz instead of the 1600?
>
> Max out the processor for another 50 bucks.


Or get lucky like I did.

I have the ASUS M4A78T-E mobo and a Phenom X2 545.(Black Box version)
When I first put it together, the mobo was on BIOS version 1603. After
updating to version 2503, the BIOS splash screen said "Press 4 to
activate 4 cores".

I "pressed 4". Wow...Yowza...Holy Smokes, Batman...

I now have a Deneb X4 B45!

I've run stress tests of all kinds on this "new development" 4 core, and
it appears it's all good.

I'm not planning on overclocking at this point.
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