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From: Jeff Liebermann on 22 Mar 2010 19:49
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:44:05 -0700, "D. Stussy"
<spam+newsgroups(a)bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote:

>"Jeff Liebermann" <jeffl(a)cruzio.com> wrote in message
>> No change. The purpose of the NPR was to eliminate the unworkable
>> automatic power control requirement for any spread spectrum
>> transmissions on any band. Very few ham stations run high power on
>> 2.4GHz. While it's theoretically possible to legally use someting
>> that hits the 1KW power output limit, few hams do this. Hams have a
>> mostly clear area from 2300-2400Mhz where 802.11 is not allowed.
>> <http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/EPS/openness/appendb.html>
>> Note that the NPR only affects spread spectrum usage, and has no
>> effect on other modes such as CW, SSB, FM, ATV, repeaters, etc.
>
>Mostly clear? When we only have 20MHz of the 100MHz range you cited?
>Amateur radio does NOT have 2310-2390.

Sorry. Typo error. I meant 2390-2400MHz is mostly ham radio. No
wi-fi allowed in that range. Amateur radio has a secondary
allocation, behind government use.

ARRL band plan for 2.3GHz:
<http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/bandplan.html#2300>
Note that this band plan is now 19 years old.

Again, let me point out that the NPR (notice of proposed rule makeing)
only affects spread spectrum amateur radio and does NOT affect any of
the other amateur modes of operation.

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From: Jeff Liebermann on 22 Mar 2010 20:01
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:27:58 +0000, Bob <bob(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:

>The IEE802.18 Group disagreed in 2006 so will they disagree this time?
><http://fjallfoss.fcc.gov/ecfs/comment/view?id=5513499721>
>I did have difficulty finding the relevant RM as it seems to have been
>duplicated with an irrelevant document.

You asked if it would have any effect on interference. You did NOT
ask if I thought it was a good idea. I think removing automagic power
control is a terrible idea. I also believe that it should be a
requirement for all handshaking data modes, on any frequency, on any
band, at any time, and without any excuses or exception because
running too much power creates more interference than it improves
communications. More bluntly, ham radio should encouraged to join the
21st century. What the ARRL is basically asking is for the FCC to
endorse what I consider to be a stone age method of operation more
suitable to weak signal and HF operation.

Again, there will probably be no effect as very few ham radio spread
spectrum stations operate at >10watt power levels (even though
commercial products are available):
<http://www.ssbusa.com/kunamp1.html>
Hmmmm.... 100 watts output. Be the first in your neighborhood to
dominate the band.

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