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From: Tom Ginkel on 25 Sep 2009 01:03 I hate to be a pest, but I am considering spending a LOT of money on the highly-touted QSC K-series speakers. I am an elderly guitar player that fancies himself still capable of rocking, yet no longer capable of humping enormous speakers. As I Google reviews I see DJs positively slobbering about the things. Their claims seem to defy all that I've leaned about sound vs. size over my 40 years of musicianing. I have no reference point for live bands. I play small bars, yet I want to be obnoxiously loud enough to keep people from sitting around and pissing and moaning about their jobs. I really could use some counsel here before parting with $3K. Am I barking up the wrong tree? Tom
From: Greg Cameron on 25 Sep 2009 02:18 On Sep 24, 10:03 pm, "Tom Ginkel" <tgin...(a)mchsi.com> wrote: > I hate to be a pest, but I am considering spending a LOT of money on the > highly-touted QSC K-series speakers. I am an elderly guitar player that > fancies himself still capable of rocking, yet no longer capable of humping > enormous speakers. > > As I Google reviews I see DJs positively slobbering about the things. Their > claims seem to defy all that I've leaned about sound vs. size over my 40 > years of musicianing. I have no reference point for live bands. I play > small bars, yet I want to be obnoxiously loud enough to keep people from > sitting around and pissing and moaning about their jobs. > > I really could use some counsel here before parting with $3K. Am I barking > up the wrong tree? > > Tom They're fine speakers. And they'll have more than enough output to drive people who don't want to listen to you out of your average bar if you want. Which models specifically are you interested in? FWIW, $3k in the world of live sound is not a lot of money. Rupert
From: McSteve on 25 Sep 2009 05:42 "Greg Cameron" wrote: > $3k in the world of live sound is not a lot of money. > Yes. A budget of $3k for the K series will get you two K 12s and 1 K Sub. Give or take a bit. Not a lot of inventory. I'm thinking of scoring a few, myself. User reviews that I've seen have been positive. Word is that the plastic box material scratches easily, so I'd invest in covers if you want them to look presentable over the long haul. -- Steve <snip> McQ
From: Phil Allison on 25 Sep 2009 06:49 "Tom Ginkel" > >I hate to be a pest, but I am considering spending a LOT of money on the >highly-touted QSC K-series speakers. I am an elderly guitar player that >fancies himself still capable of rocking, yet no longer capable of humping >enormous speakers. > > As I Google reviews I see DJs positively slobbering about the things. ** Do slobbering DJs normally impress you with their competence in the world of audio ?? > Their claims seem to defy all that I've leaned about sound vs. size over > my 40 years of musicianing. ** See above. > I have no reference point for live bands. I play small bars, yet I want > to be obnoxiously loud enough to keep people from sitting around and > pissing and moaning about their jobs. > > I really could use some counsel here before parting with $3K. Am I > barking up the wrong tree? ** Consider what QSC have done in order to produce these lightweight, high powered speakers. 1. Used switching power supplies and switching amplifiers made in China employing tiny and unrepairable SMD componentry. 2. Used Chinese made speakers with no pedigree and also non repairable. 3. Used a minimum size, Chinese made plastic box to enclose the lot. 4. Provide a sub woofer to go with the puny main boxes, made exactly the same unrepairable way, just so you can get a usable amount of bass. I have a very similar product to the QSC K series sitting next to me as I post - a " Wharfedale" Titan 12 Active, about 2 years old. It is an all Chinese design too, lightweight with switching amps and PSU. http://www.wharfedalepro.com/Home/Products/POWEREDLOUDSPEAKERS/TITANACTIVE/TITAN12ACTIVE/tabid/181/Default.aspx The 12 inch woofer is burnt to a crisp and the driving amp is dead - repair is deemed quite uneconomic. Before you invest in anything like the K series - you gotta ask yourself the famous question that Clint Eastwood asked that unfortunate punk he was pointing his huge gun at. ..... Phil
From: Arny Krueger on 25 Sep 2009 08:02
"Tom Ginkel" <tginkel(a)mchsi.com> wrote in message news:k9Yum.58035$5n1.1389(a)attbi_s21 > I hate to be a pest, but I am considering spending a LOT > of money on the highly-touted QSC K-series speakers. I > am an elderly guitar player that fancies himself still > capable of rocking, yet no longer capable of humping > enormous speakers. > As I Google reviews I see DJs positively slobbering about > the things. Their claims seem to defy all that I've > leaned about sound vs. size over my 40 years of > musicianing. I have no reference point for live bands. I play small bars, > yet I want to be obnoxiously loud > enough to keep people from sitting around and pissing and > moaning about their jobs. > I really could use some counsel here before parting with > $3K. Am I barking up the wrong tree? I suspect they are very good, mostly because QSC is a good company and making very good equipment (for the price) is what they do. Externally, the QSC speakers seem to be good system components with provisions for daisy-chaining and remote controlling gain, that competitive products from Harmon lacked the last time I looked at them. I conference with one of the QSC principals elsewhere, and the behavior and reputation of these people is very fine. From a technical standpoint, the QSC K-series products are essentially pigs in pokes because of the absence of good acoustical specifications along the lines of what one can readily obtain for competitive speakers from say, Electrovoice. OTOH, EV doesn't seem to have powered speakers that compete head-to-head across the line with the QSC K series. OTOH EV has several similar products with 15" woofers that don't seem to have any competition in the K-series. As far as our esteemed colleague's rant about the country of origin, the use of SMT components, and reliance on purpose-built drivers; well that's how things are near the end of the first decade of the new millennium. I can't see any point to paying a premium for equipment built in places where labor costs are maxed out (e.g. most of Europe), leaded components, and standard drivers that may not be optimum for the application. As far as the pricing goes, methinks that too many people are judging price based on equipment that used to be dismissed because it was obviously intended for occasional use and probable early destruction by substance abusing pseudo technicians, careless teenagers (as opposed to the other kind), and other people who haven't matured yet. Manufacturers like Behringer have done a lot to advance the quality and performance levels of such things, but it is still not the same as well-designed quality equipment sold for well-above minimum prices. |