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From: Tailor on 1 Jun 2010 19:13

Supposed, just supposed we arrived at the right quantum interpretation
someday and we found out there is an emergent property that can
control some aspect of chemistry. Could we consider it as the 5th
fundamental force? How do you decide when to call something a
fundamental force?

Let's say, just for sake of discussion that the quantum potential in
Bohmian Mechanics is real and it can be controlled by some
configuration or setup. Can we say the quantum potential is a
fundamental force?

Or let's say there is another side to electromagnetic field.. a hidden
side.. like scalar wave, which let's say (again for sake of
discussion) is a result of broken symmetry.. can we call the scalar
wave a fundamental force?
From: Androcles on 1 Jun 2010 22:29

"Tailor" <tailoreys(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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| Supposed, just supposed we arrived at the right quantum interpretation
| someday and we found out there is an emergent property that can
| control some aspect of chemistry. Could we consider it as the 5th
| fundamental force? How do you decide when to call something a
| fundamental force?
|
| Let's say, just for sake of discussion that the quantum potential in
| Bohmian Mechanics is real and it can be controlled by some
| configuration or setup. Can we say the quantum potential is a
| fundamental force?
|
| Or let's say there is another side to electromagnetic field.. a hidden
| side.. like scalar wave, which let's say (again for sake of
| discussion) is a result of broken symmetry.. can we call the scalar
| wave a fundamental force?
|
Let's say, just for the sake of discussion, that Santa Claus comes
down chimneys. Can we say that the reason he doesn't get soot on
his red suit is the 5th extra-clean detergent from Unilever? How do
you decide when to call something a fundamental soap-powder?


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