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On Mar 22, 10:11 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 1:04 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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>
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> > On Mar 22, 9:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 23, 12:27 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 22, 9:23 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 23, 12:08 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Mar 22, 11:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 11:23 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > Aether surrounds each and every nuclei which is the matter which is
> > > > > > > > > > the Earth. The force of displaced aether is not only exerted on the
> > > > > > > > > > Earth, the force is exerted throughout the Earth.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Gravity is the force of aether displaced by a massive object.
>
> > > > > > > > > Why is macro gravity strength equal throughout the Earth?
>
> > > > > > > > > There is macro and micro gravity strength. How do you do both from one
> > > > > > > > > pressure?
>
> > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/jargon/jargonfile_m.html#macrogravity
>
> > > > > > > > "Macrogravity
> > > > > > > >     (n) 1. The hypothetical force that is a major factor in describing
> > > > > > > > the motions of the planets and the stars. [den., Tom Scharle] Cf.
> > > > > > > > microgravity(3). Macrogravity can only be inferred from these motions
> > > > > > > > (the bodies involved being by definition not subject to
> > > > > > > > experimentation). The identification with microgravity(3) under the
> > > > > > > > single concept of gravity is said to be parallel to the identification
> > > > > > > > of macroevolution and microevolution under the concept of evolution."
>
> > > > > > > >http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/jargon/jargonfile_m.html#microgravity
>
> > > > > > > > "Microgravity
> > > > > > > >     (n) 1. The state of very little gravitational acceleration such as
> > > > > > > > experienced in free fall, as in an artificial satellite. [den.] 2.
> > > > > > > > Small deviations in standard gravitational attraction due to local
> > > > > > > > masses (such as the Himalayas). [den.] 3. The force which causes the
> > > > > > > > observed weight and acceleration of bodies in the laboratory. [conn.,
> > > > > > > > Tom Scharle] Microgravity is by definition the force which can be
> > > > > > > > measured experimentally. Newton's theory(1) of Universal Gravitation
> > > > > > > > identified microgravity(3) and macrogravity."
>
> > > > > > > > The space station experiences microgravity because the space station
> > > > > > > > is 'neutrally buoyant' with respect to the aether displaced by the
> > > > > > > > Earth.
>
> > > > > > > There is one big strength of gravity throughout and many micro gravity
> > > > > > > fields from atoms.
> > > > > > > This is macro and micro strength gravity domain. There should be
> > > > > > > pressures for both.
>
> > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > All matter displaces the aether. Each and every nuclei which is the
> > > > > > matter displaces the aether. The aether applies pressure back towards
> > > > > > each nuclei.
>
> > > > > > The aether displaced by one nuclei extends beyond other nuclei.
>
> > > > > > Aether displacement of nuclei is similar to the Casimir Effect.
>
> > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
>
> > > > > > In the Casimir Effect the aether displaced by one plate extends beyond
> > > > > > the second plate. The displaced aether of both plates pushes the
> > > > > > plates together.
>
> > > > > > The same occurs with the nuclei which makes up the matter.
>
> > > > > > The Casimir Effect is caused by the cumulative aether displaced by the
> > > > > > nuclei in each of the plates extending past the other plate.
>
> > > > > > If I understand your definition of micro and macro gravity then the
> > > > > > aether displaced by a single nuclei would be considered to be micro
> > > > > > gravity. The cumulative effect of all of the nuclei which is the
> > > > > > matter which is the Earth is macro gravity.
>
> > > > > The Casimir Effect is an example of what appears to be your definition
> > > > > of micro gravity.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > Each particle has a micro gravity. Each bunch of atoms like the earth
> > > > have a macro gravity. There are two domains. One for the small and one
> > > > for total gravity of the system.
>
> > > > Are there two pressures?
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > It is the same force. It is a matter of scale.
>
> > > An individual nuclei displaces the aether. The displaced aether exerts
> > > a pressure towards the nuclei. (micro gravity).
>
> > > If you get enough nuclei together to form two plates and you put the
> > > plates close enough together the aether displaced by the nuclei in
> > > each of the plates extends past the other plate forcing the plates
> > > together. (Casimir Effect is an example of micro gravity)
>
> > > When you get enough nuclei together you get (macro) gravity.
>
> > > For example, the force associated with the aether displaced by each
> > > and every nuclei which is the matter which is the Earth is (macro)
> > > gravity.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > You need two pressure strengths for whole and micro gravity.
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> There is the pressure associated with the aether displaced by a single
> nuclei and then there is the pressure associated with the aether
> displaced by all of the nuclei which is the matter which is the Earth.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

So a particle has its own pressure? Is that its wave?

Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on
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> > On Mar 23, 1:04 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 22, 9:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 23, 12:27 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 22, 9:23 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Mar 23, 12:08 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Mar 22, 11:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 11:23 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Aether surrounds each and every nuclei which is the matter which is
> > > > > > > > > > > the Earth. The force of displaced aether is not only exerted on the
> > > > > > > > > > > Earth, the force is exerted throughout the Earth.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Gravity is the force of aether displaced by a massive object.
>
> > > > > > > > > > Why is macro gravity strength equal throughout the Earth?
>
> > > > > > > > > > There is macro and micro gravity strength. How do you do both from one
> > > > > > > > > > pressure?
>
> > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > > >http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/jargon/jargonfile_m.html#macrogravity
>
> > > > > > > > > "Macrogravity
> > > > > > > > >     (n) 1. The hypothetical force that is a major factor in describing
> > > > > > > > > the motions of the planets and the stars. [den., Tom Scharle] Cf.
> > > > > > > > > microgravity(3). Macrogravity can only be inferred from these motions
> > > > > > > > > (the bodies involved being by definition not subject to
> > > > > > > > > experimentation). The identification with microgravity(3) under the
> > > > > > > > > single concept of gravity is said to be parallel to the identification
> > > > > > > > > of macroevolution and microevolution under the concept of evolution."
>
> > > > > > > > >http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/jargon/jargonfile_m.html#microgravity
>
> > > > > > > > > "Microgravity
> > > > > > > > >     (n) 1. The state of very little gravitational acceleration such as
> > > > > > > > > experienced in free fall, as in an artificial satellite. [den.] 2.
> > > > > > > > > Small deviations in standard gravitational attraction due to local
> > > > > > > > > masses (such as the Himalayas). [den.] 3. The force which causes the
> > > > > > > > > observed weight and acceleration of bodies in the laboratory. [conn.,
> > > > > > > > > Tom Scharle] Microgravity is by definition the force which can be
> > > > > > > > > measured experimentally. Newton's theory(1) of Universal Gravitation
> > > > > > > > > identified microgravity(3) and macrogravity."
>
> > > > > > > > > The space station experiences microgravity because the space station
> > > > > > > > > is 'neutrally buoyant' with respect to the aether displaced by the
> > > > > > > > > Earth.
>
> > > > > > > > There is one big strength of gravity throughout and many micro gravity
> > > > > > > > fields from atoms.
> > > > > > > > This is macro and micro strength gravity domain. There should be
> > > > > > > > pressures for both.
>
> > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > All matter displaces the aether. Each and every nuclei which is the
> > > > > > > matter displaces the aether. The aether applies pressure back towards
> > > > > > > each nuclei.
>
> > > > > > > The aether displaced by one nuclei extends beyond other nuclei.
>
> > > > > > > Aether displacement of nuclei is similar to the Casimir Effect.
>
> > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
>
> > > > > > > In the Casimir Effect the aether displaced by one plate extends beyond
> > > > > > > the second plate. The displaced aether of both plates pushes the
> > > > > > > plates together.
>
> > > > > > > The same occurs with the nuclei which makes up the matter.
>
> > > > > > > The Casimir Effect is caused by the cumulative aether displaced by the
> > > > > > > nuclei in each of the plates extending past the other plate.
>
> > > > > > > If I understand your definition of micro and macro gravity then the
> > > > > > > aether displaced by a single nuclei would be considered to be micro
> > > > > > > gravity. The cumulative effect of all of the nuclei which is the
> > > > > > > matter which is the Earth is macro gravity.
>
> > > > > > The Casimir Effect is an example of what appears to be your definition
> > > > > > of micro gravity.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > Each particle has a micro gravity. Each bunch of atoms like the earth
> > > > > have a macro gravity. There are two domains. One for the small and one
> > > > > for total gravity of the system.
>
> > > > > Are there two pressures?
>
> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > It is the same force. It is a matter of scale.
>
> > > > An individual nuclei displaces the aether. The displaced aether exerts
> > > > a pressure towards the nuclei. (micro gravity).
>
> > > > If you get enough nuclei together to form two plates and you put the
> > > > plates close enough together the aether displaced by the nuclei in
> > > > each of the plates extends past the other plate forcing the plates
> > > > together. (Casimir Effect is an example of micro gravity)
>
> > > > When you get enough nuclei together you get (macro) gravity.
>
> > > > For example, the force associated with the aether displaced by each
> > > > and every nuclei which is the matter which is the Earth is (macro)
> > > > gravity.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > You need two pressure strengths for whole and micro gravity.
>
> > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > There is the pressure associated with the aether displaced by a single
> > nuclei and then there is the pressure associated with the aether
> > displaced by all of the nuclei which is the matter which is the Earth.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> So a particle has its own pressure? Is that its wave?
>
> Mitch Raemsch

Let's discuss this in terms of a C-60 molecule. A C-60 molecule is a
self contained entity. The C-60 molecule occupies three dimensional
space. The aether which would otherwise exist where the matter which
is the C-60 molecule does has been displaced. This aether is not at
rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. The aether displaced by the
C-60 molecule exerts pressure towards the C-60 molecule. This force
exists whether the C-60 molecule is at rest with respect to the
aether, or not.

A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
C-60 molecule occupies a very small region of the wave.

In a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule the very small region
which consists of the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit
while the aether displacement wave enters and exits the available
slits. The aether displacement wave exits the slits and creates
interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels.
Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated
aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no
interference.
From: mpc755 on
On Mar 23, 2:14 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 1:41 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Mar 22, 10:11 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Mar 23, 1:04 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Mar 22, 9:51 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mar 23, 12:27 am, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > On Mar 22, 9:23 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > On Mar 23, 12:08 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 11:56 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:44 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 11:23 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:19 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Aether surrounds each and every nuclei which is the matter which is
> > > > > > > > > > > > the Earth. The force of displaced aether is not only exerted on the
> > > > > > > > > > > > Earth, the force is exerted throughout the Earth.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gravity is the force of aether displaced by a massive object.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Why is macro gravity strength equal throughout the Earth?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > There is macro and micro gravity strength. How do you do both from one
> > > > > > > > > > > pressure?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > > > >http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/jargon/jargonfile_m.html#macrogravity
>
> > > > > > > > > > "Macrogravity
> > > > > > > > > >     (n) 1. The hypothetical force that is a major factor in describing
> > > > > > > > > > the motions of the planets and the stars. [den., Tom Scharle] Cf.
> > > > > > > > > > microgravity(3). Macrogravity can only be inferred from these motions
> > > > > > > > > > (the bodies involved being by definition not subject to
> > > > > > > > > > experimentation). The identification with microgravity(3) under the
> > > > > > > > > > single concept of gravity is said to be parallel to the identification
> > > > > > > > > > of macroevolution and microevolution under the concept of evolution."
>
> > > > > > > > > >http://www.talkorigins.org/origins/jargon/jargonfile_m.html#microgravity
>
> > > > > > > > > > "Microgravity
> > > > > > > > > >     (n) 1. The state of very little gravitational acceleration such as
> > > > > > > > > > experienced in free fall, as in an artificial satellite.. [den.] 2.
> > > > > > > > > > Small deviations in standard gravitational attraction due to local
> > > > > > > > > > masses (such as the Himalayas). [den.] 3. The force which causes the
> > > > > > > > > > observed weight and acceleration of bodies in the laboratory. [conn.,
> > > > > > > > > > Tom Scharle] Microgravity is by definition the force which can be
> > > > > > > > > > measured experimentally. Newton's theory(1) of Universal Gravitation
> > > > > > > > > > identified microgravity(3) and macrogravity."
>
> > > > > > > > > > The space station experiences microgravity because the space station
> > > > > > > > > > is 'neutrally buoyant' with respect to the aether displaced by the
> > > > > > > > > > Earth.
>
> > > > > > > > > There is one big strength of gravity throughout and many micro gravity
> > > > > > > > > fields from atoms.
> > > > > > > > > This is macro and micro strength gravity domain. There should be
> > > > > > > > > pressures for both.
>
> > > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > > All matter displaces the aether. Each and every nuclei which is the
> > > > > > > > matter displaces the aether. The aether applies pressure back towards
> > > > > > > > each nuclei.
>
> > > > > > > > The aether displaced by one nuclei extends beyond other nuclei.
>
> > > > > > > > Aether displacement of nuclei is similar to the Casimir Effect.
>
> > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect
>
> > > > > > > > In the Casimir Effect the aether displaced by one plate extends beyond
> > > > > > > > the second plate. The displaced aether of both plates pushes the
> > > > > > > > plates together.
>
> > > > > > > > The same occurs with the nuclei which makes up the matter.
>
> > > > > > > > The Casimir Effect is caused by the cumulative aether displaced by the
> > > > > > > > nuclei in each of the plates extending past the other plate..
>
> > > > > > > > If I understand your definition of micro and macro gravity then the
> > > > > > > > aether displaced by a single nuclei would be considered to be micro
> > > > > > > > gravity. The cumulative effect of all of the nuclei which is the
> > > > > > > > matter which is the Earth is macro gravity.
>
> > > > > > > The Casimir Effect is an example of what appears to be your definition
> > > > > > > of micro gravity.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > > > Each particle has a micro gravity. Each bunch of atoms like the earth
> > > > > > have a macro gravity. There are two domains. One for the small and one
> > > > > > for total gravity of the system.
>
> > > > > > Are there two pressures?
>
> > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > It is the same force. It is a matter of scale.
>
> > > > > An individual nuclei displaces the aether. The displaced aether exerts
> > > > > a pressure towards the nuclei. (micro gravity).
>
> > > > > If you get enough nuclei together to form two plates and you put the
> > > > > plates close enough together the aether displaced by the nuclei in
> > > > > each of the plates extends past the other plate forcing the plates
> > > > > together. (Casimir Effect is an example of micro gravity)
>
> > > > > When you get enough nuclei together you get (macro) gravity.
>
> > > > > For example, the force associated with the aether displaced by each
> > > > > and every nuclei which is the matter which is the Earth is (macro)
> > > > > gravity.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > > > You need two pressure strengths for whole and micro gravity.
>
> > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > There is the pressure associated with the aether displaced by a single
> > > nuclei and then there is the pressure associated with the aether
> > > displaced by all of the nuclei which is the matter which is the Earth..- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -
>
> > So a particle has its own pressure? Is that its wave?
>
> > Mitch Raemsch
>
> Let's discuss this in terms of a C-60 molecule. A C-60 molecule is a
> self contained entity. The C-60 molecule occupies three dimensional
> space. The aether which would otherwise exist where the matter which
> is the C-60 molecule does has been displaced. This aether is not at
> rest when displaced and 'displaces back'. The aether displaced by the
> C-60 molecule exerts pressure towards the C-60 molecule. This force
> exists whether the C-60 molecule is at rest with respect to the
> aether, or not.
>
> A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> C-60 molecule occupies a very small region of the wave.
>
> In a double slit experiment with a C-60 molecule the very small region
> which consists of the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit
> while the aether displacement wave enters and exits the available
> slits. The aether displacement wave exits the slits and creates
> interference which alters the direction the C-60 molecule travels.
> Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the associated
> aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and there is no
> interference.

One thing that appears to be similar to what I have seen you
discussing as the 'wave within a wave' concept is the following:

http://www.ensmp.fr/aflb/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

"At one's preference, it may be said that a and Á are the amplitude
and phase of the v wave, in direct proximity of the pointlike region
u0, of a wave defined by u = u0 + v. I gave justifications of the
guidance formula, based on this idea."

"These are essentially based on the way in which quantities
respectively characterizing the regular v wave and the internal u0
wave of the particle connect with the neighbourhood of the singular
region. u0 would have to increase very sharply as one penetrates the
singular region."

This seems to be very similar to Einstein's concept of:

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections
with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places".

There is a connectedness between the particle and the neighborhood.
There is a connectedness between the matter and the aether.

What appears to be missing is what de Broglie is referring to in terms
of his definition of a 'particle'. His definition of a particle as an
'internal wave' makes sense to me for subatomic particles such as
photons and electrons. What is not clear to me is if de Broglie also
considers something as complex as a C-60 molecule to be an 'internal
wave'.

My interpretation is the 'internal wave' is associated with the C-60
molecule and not the C-60 molecule itself. The 'internal wave' is
where the C-60 molecule connects "with the neighbourhood of the
singular region".

Whatever the correct interpretation is, the singular region which
consists of the C-60 molecule enters and exits a single slit in a
double slit experiment.
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> > On Mar 22, 9:53 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > On Mar 22, 6:14 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > On Mar 22, 9:13 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > On Mar 22, 6:04 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:59 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:57 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 5:52 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:32 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 8:15 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 7:44 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 7:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 7:06 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 22, 6:36 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > [...]
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   x  x   targets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > O |) |)  Planet, 2 sight lines and 2 trajectories.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   ^  ^   2 equal guns (joule, gram)
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > elevations:  sea level and 20,000 km
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. Which parabolic trajectory is more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >    like a straight line?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Which bullet spends more time flying?
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Excluding air pressure, the trajectories will be the same.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You need a new avocation and for your own
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > safety may I suggest one that doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involve anything heavy, fast or more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > than 20 cm off the ground.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sue...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you just explain what the point it is you are trying to make
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and how this has to do with the state of the aether as determined by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > its connections with the matter is the aether's state of displacement.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > You have made the point better than I can.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Your physical theory is no better than a spear thrower
> > > > > > > > > > > > and worse than a Roman artillery soldier would use.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Chimpanzees occasionally throw objects so if you can
> > > > > > > > > > > > communicate with one  it might explain your own
> > > > > > > > > > > > theory to you.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sue...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> > > > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule occupies a very small region of the wave. The C-60
> > > > > > > > > > > molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment
> > > > > > > > > > > and the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the
> > > > > > > > > > > available slits. The aether displacement wave creates interference
> > > > > > > > > > > upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> > > > > > > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> > > > > > > > > > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> > > > > > > > > > > there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Atomic clocks tick based upon the aether pressure in which they exist.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > The pressure associated with the aether displaced by a massive object
> > > > > > > > > > > is gravity.
>
> > > > > > > > > > ==================
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> > > > > > > > > > > Aether Displacement is a unified theory.
>
> > > > > > > > > > I suggest you call it the low-cal diet theory.
> > > > > > > > > > It users will have no meat on the table. :-))
>
> > > > > > > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ballistic_trajectoryhttp://en.wikipedia....
>
> > > > > > > > > > Sue...
>
> > > > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> > > > > > > > > C-60 molecule occupies a very small region of the wave. The C-60
> > > > > > > > > molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment
> > > > > > > > > and the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the
> > > > > > > > > available slits. The aether displacement wave creates interference
> > > > > > > > > upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> > > > > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> > > > > > > > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> > > > > > > > > there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > > > Atomic clocks tick based upon the aether pressure in which they exist.
>
> > > > > > > > > The pressure associated with the aether displaced by a massive object
> > > > > > > > > is gravity.
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> > > > > > > > > Aether Displacement is a unified theory.- Hide quoted text -
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> > > > > > > > There is fastest time corresponding to light's clock. Matter's clock
> > > > > > > > or one rate of time for its increasing flowing energy goes slower.
> > > > > > > > Your batteries don't count mpc.
>
> > > > > > > > Mitch Raemsch
>
> > > > > > > A moving C-60 molecule has an associated aether displacement wave. The
> > > > > > > C-60 molecule occupies a very small region of the wave. The C-60
> > > > > > > molecule enters and exits a single slit in a double slit experiment
> > > > > > > and the associated aether displacement wave enters and exits the
> > > > > > > available slits. The aether displacement wave creates interference
> > > > > > > upon exiting the slits which alters the direction the C-60 molecule
> > > > > > > travels. Detecting the C-60 molecule causes decoherence of the
> > > > > > > associated aether displacement wave (i.e. turns it into chop) and
> > > > > > > there is no interference.
>
> > > > > > > Atomic clocks tick based upon the aether pressure in which they exist.
>
> > > > > > > The pressure associated with the aether displaced by a massive object
> > > > > > > is gravity.
>
> > > > > > > Aether Displacement is a unified theory.
>
> > > > > > The rate at which an atomic clock 'ticks' is based upon the aether
> > > > > > pressure in which it exists. In terms of motion, the speed of a GPS
> > > > > > satellite with respect to the aether causes it to displace more aether
> > > > > > and for that aether to exert more pressure on the clock in the GPS
> > > > > > satellite than the aether pressure associated with a clock at rest
> > > > > > with respect to the Earth. This causes the GPS satellite clock to
> > > > > > "result in a delay of about 7 ìs/day". The aether pressure associated
> > > > > > with the aether displaced by the Earth exerts less pressure on the GPS
> > > > > > satellite than a similar clock at rest on the Earth "causing the GPS
> > > > > > clocks to appear faster by about 45 ìs/day". The aether pressure
> > > > > > associated with the speed at which the GPS satellite moves with
> > > > > > respect to the aether and the aether pressure associated with the
> > > > > > aether displaced by the Earth causes "clocks on the GPS satellites
> > > > > > [to] tick approximately 38 ìs/day faster than clocks on the ground."
> > > > > > (quoted text fromhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_relativity_on_GPS).-Hidequote...
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> > > > > Space flow of gravity slows time. Energy increasing in flow through
> > > > > space reduces time just the same.
> > > > > There are two times. There are two rates in the universe one for
> > > > > gravity strength the other for speed. This is GR and SR.
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> > > > > Mitch Raemsch
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> > > Round space aether is the unified field of God and man's gravity.
> > > Energy flows through the gravity continuum.
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> > > Mitch Raemsch
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> What God is doing in physics is the first cause. God is creating space
> flow gravity. Aether helps deliver gravity from the center opf energy
> form to make it even across the entire form. Time forms are particle
> and light with equal times accross their fields originating from their
> center and programed by aether across them.
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Space aether programs space flow gamma for time and gravity strength
from the matter wave center accross the entire energy form.

Mitch Raemsch
From: PD on
On Mar 23, 2:43 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote:
> On Mar 23, 1:28 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mar 23, 12:12 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote:

> > > > > SR assumes that:
> > > > > 1. Every SR inertial observer possesses all the exclusive properties
> > > > > of the absolute rest frame.
>
> > > > Only YOU say they are the *exclusive properties* of a rest frame. No
> > > > one else.
>
> > > Wrong... a lots of people say that.
>
> > Name three.
>
> All the aetherists in these NGs.

Name three. And please cite where they said those are the exclusive
properties of the absolute rest frame.
If you cannot do that, then confess that you've lied about it.

>
>
>
> > > > SR says EXPLICITLY that they are NOT exclusive properties of any
> > > > particular frame, and furthermore SR says there is no such thing as an
> > > > absolute rest frame.
>
> > > That's because an SR observer assumes that he is in the absolute
> > > frame.
>
> > How can he assume he is in something SR says does NOT EXIST????
> > Idiot.
>
> Hey idiot...the point is

that an SR observer is not going to assume he's in something that SR
says does not exist. That is the point.
The SR observer is not Weinberg.

OK, now you go back to talking about Weinberg.

> he disagree with SR that space is not empty
> space. He said that a field is a stress in space but not a stress in
> empty space. The fact that he compare stress in space as stress in a
> soild suggests that sppace is a substance.

Ken, you are a complete buffoon. You think to yourself, "He said
'space' and not 'empty space' so by space he must mean 'solid'."
Really???? Are you this much of a buffoon that you will make such
ridiculous statements rather than confess that you made a mistake? Is
confessing a mistake so much of a blow to your fragile ego that it
makes you gag at the thought?

Are you so senile that you confuse an SR observer with Weinberg?

PD