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From: mpc755 on 10 May 2010 10:25 On May 9, 2:39 pm, Esa Riihonen <e...(a)riihonen.net.not.invalid> wrote: > mpc755 kirjoitti: > > > > Post a link to the experiment or keep your baseless assumptions to > > yourself. > > This is quite basic and easy experiment, so it would be quite strange if > no one would have done it. Turns out the issue was studied already almost > two hundred years ago - see Arago-Fresnel laws. > > [0] > But anyways, here is one recent experiment:http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 > > Specifically see the figure 3 on page 5. > > Now that the prediction of your aether theory (actually your declaration, > supposedly somehow based on the theory), namely that L and R light will > produce differing interference patterns, has been experimentally shown > wrong we will do as any sane scientist will do: scrap the theory and start > something new - right? > 'Generalized Arago-Fresnel laws: The EME-flow-line description' http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 "The results of Fig. 2 seem to indicate a slight polarization dependent transversal shift. This could be traced back to a systematic beam displacement during adjustments of the Babinet compensator. The results of Fig. 3 were obtained after resolving this problem. Fig. 2 and more convincingly Fig. 3 show that the interference pattern does not depend on the state of polarization of the incident laser light." Polarization dependent transversal shift is exactly what I predicted. The interference pattern depends on the state of the polarization of the incident laser light. The experimenters incorrectly adjusted the Babinet compensator to get their desired results. Figures 3 and 4 better are a better representation of the effect: 'A Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser' http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/quant-ph/pdf/9903/9903047v1.pdf
From: mpc755 on 10 May 2010 14:13 On May 9, 2:39 pm, Esa Riihonen <e...(a)riihonen.net.not.invalid> wrote: > mpc755 kirjoitti: > > > > Post a link to the experiment or keep your baseless assumptions to > > yourself. > > This is quite basic and easy experiment, so it would be quite strange if > no one would have done it. Turns out the issue was studied already almost > two hundred years ago - see Arago-Fresnel laws. > > [0] > But anyways, here is one recent experiment:http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 > > Specifically see the figure 3 on page 5. > > Now that the prediction of your aether theory (actually your declaration, > supposedly somehow based on the theory), namely that L and R light will > produce differing interference patterns, has been experimentally shown > wrong we will do as any sane scientist will do: scrap the theory and start > something new - right? > 'Generalized Arago-Fresnel laws: The EME-flow-line description' http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 "The results of Fig. 2 seem to indicate a slight polarization dependent transversal shift. This could be traced back to a systematic beam displacement during adjustments of the Babinet compensator. The results of Fig. 3 were obtained after resolving this problem. Fig. 2 and more convincingly Fig. 3 show that the interference pattern does not depend on the state of polarization of the incident laser light." Polarization dependent transversal shift is exactly what I predicted. The interference pattern depends on the state of the polarization of the incident laser light. The experimenters incorrectly adjusted the Babinet compensator to get their desired results. From the original article the article you linked to was derived from: 'Double-slit quantum eraser' http://grad.physics.sunysb.edu/~amarch/Walborn.pdf "Experimentally, this can be done by placing a polarizer in the path of beam p and orientating it at +45° to select [|+>p] or at -45° to select [|->p] .The interference pattern is recovered through the coincidence detection of photons s and p. Notice that the fringes obtained in the two cases are out of phase. They are commonly called fringes and antifringes."
From: mpc755 on 17 May 2010 00:08 On May 9, 2:39 pm, Esa Riihonen <e...(a)riihonen.net.not.invalid> wrote: > mpc755 kirjoitti: > > > Post a link to the experiment or keep your baseless assumptions to > > yourself. > > This is quite basic and easy experiment, so it would be quite strange if > no one would have done it. Turns out the issue was studied already almost > two hundred years ago - see Arago-Fresnel laws. > > [0] > But anyways, here is one recent experiment:http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 > > Specifically see the figure 3 on page 5. > > Now that the prediction of your aether theory (actually your declaration, > supposedly somehow based on the theory), namely that L and R light will > produce differing interference patterns, has been experimentally shown > wrong we will do as any sane scientist will do: scrap the theory and start > something new - right? > 'Generalized Arago-Fresnel laws: The EME-flow-line description' http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 "The results of Fig. 2 seem to indicate a slight polarization dependent transversal shift. This could be traced back to a systematic beam displacement during adjustments of the Babinet compensator. The results of Fig. 3 were obtained after resolving this problem. Fig. 2 and more convincingly Fig. 3 show that the interference pattern does not depend on the state of polarization of the incident laser light." Polarization dependent transversal shift is exactly what I predicted. The interference pattern depends on the state of the polarization of the incident laser light. The experimenters incorrectly adjusted the Babinet compensator to get their desired results. From the original article the article you linked to was derived from: 'Double-slit quantum eraser' http://grad.physics.sunysb.edu/~amarch/Walborn.pdf "Suppose that in front of each slit we place a quarter-wave plate, with the fast axis at an angle of 45° (or -45°) with respect to the photon polarization direction. Upon traversing either one of the wave plates, the photon becomes circularly polarized, and acquires a well- defined angular momentum. Supposing that the wave plate is free to rotate, it should acquire an angular momentum opposite to that of the photon, and rotate right or left, depending on the chirality of the photon." The quarter-wave plates in front of each slit cause there to be two interference patterns created at detector Ds. One associated with the right photon and one associated with the left photon. The cumulative coincidence counts of the two interference patterns results in Fig 7. "Experimentally, this can be done by placing a polarizer in the path of beam p and orientating it at +45° to select [|+>p] or at -45° to select [|->p]. The interference pattern is recovered through the coincidence detection of photons s and p. Notice that the fringes obtained in the two cases are out of phase. They are commonly called fringes and antifringes." The placement of the polarizer in the path of beam p derives the two interference patterns created at detector Ds. The cumulative coincidence counts of Fig. 4 and Fig. 5 results in Fig. 7.
From: mpc755 on 17 May 2010 00:16 On May 9, 2:39 pm, Esa Riihonen <e...(a)riihonen.net.not.invalid> wrote: > mpc755 kirjoitti: > > > Post a link to the experiment or keep your baseless assumptions to > > yourself. > > This is quite basic and easy experiment, so it would be quite strange if > no one would have done it. Turns out the issue was studied already almost > two hundred years ago - see Arago-Fresnel laws. > > [0] > But anyways, here is one recent experiment:http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 > > Specifically see the figure 3 on page 5. > > Now that the prediction of your aether theory (actually your declaration, > supposedly somehow based on the theory), namely that L and R light will > produce differing interference patterns, has been experimentally shown > wrong we will do as any sane scientist will do: scrap the theory and start > something new - right? > 'Generalized Arago-Fresnel laws: The EME-flow-line description' http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 "The results of Fig. 2 seem to indicate a slight polarization dependent transversal shift. This could be traced back to a systematic beam displacement during adjustments of the Babinet compensator. The results of Fig. 3 were obtained after resolving this problem. Fig. 2 and more convincingly Fig. 3 show that the interference pattern does not depend on the state of polarization of the incident laser light." Polarization dependent transversal shift is exactly what I predicted. The interference pattern depends on the state of the polarization of the incident laser light. The experimenters incorrectly adjusted the Babinet compensator to get their desired results. From the original article the article you linked to was derived from: 'Double-slit quantum eraser' http://grad.physics.sunysb.edu/~amarch/Walborn.pdf "Suppose that in front of each slit we place a quarter-wave plate, with the fast axis at an angle of 45° (or -45°) with respect to the photon polarization direction. Upon traversing either one of the wave plates, the photon becomes circularly polarized, and acquires a well- defined angular momentum. Supposing that the wave plate is free to rotate, it should acquire an angular momentum opposite to that of the photon, and rotate right or left, depending on the chirality of the photon." The quarter-wave plates in front of each slit cause there to be two interference patterns created at detector Ds. One associated with the right photon and one associated with the left photon. The cumulative coincidence counts of the two interference patterns results in Fig 7. "Experimentally, this can be done by placing a polarizer in the path of beam p and orientating it at +45° to select [|+>p] or at -45° to select [|->p]. The interference pattern is recovered through the coincidence detection of photons s and p. Notice that the fringes obtained in the two cases are out of phase. They are commonly called fringes and antifringes." The placement of the polarizer in the path of beam p derives the two interference patterns created at detector Ds. Cumulative coincidence counts of Fig. 4 and Fig. 5 result in Fig. 7.
From: mpc755 on 17 May 2010 00:23
On May 9, 2:39 pm, Esa Riihonen <e...(a)riihonen.net.not.invalid> wrote: > mpc755 kirjoitti: > > > Post a link to the experiment or keep your baseless assumptions to > > yourself. > > This is quite basic and easy experiment, so it would be quite strange if > no one would have done it. Turns out the issue was studied already almost > two hundred years ago - see Arago-Fresnel laws. > > [0] > But anyways, here is one recent experiment:http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 > > Specifically see the figure 3 on page 5. > > Now that the prediction of your aether theory (actually your declaration, > supposedly somehow based on the theory), namely that L and R light will > produce differing interference patterns, has been experimentally shown > wrong we will do as any sane scientist will do: scrap the theory and start > something new - right? > 'Generalized Arago-Fresnel laws: The EME-flow-line description' http://arxiv.org/abs/1003.2729 "The results of Fig. 2 seem to indicate a slight polarization dependent transversal shift. This could be traced back to a systematic beam displacement during adjustments of the Babinet compensator. The results of Fig. 3 were obtained after resolving this problem. Fig. 2 and more convincingly Fig. 3 show that the interference pattern does not depend on the state of polarization of the incident laser light." Polarization dependent transversal shift is exactly what I predicted. The interference pattern depends on the state of the polarization of the incident laser light. The experimenters incorrectly adjusted the Babinet compensator to get their desired results. From the original article the article you linked to was derived from: 'Double-slit quantum eraser' http://grad.physics.sunysb.edu/~amarch/Walborn.pdf "Suppose that in front of each slit we place a quarter-wave plate, with the fast axis at an angle of 45° (or -45°) with respect to the photon polarization direction. Upon traversing either one of the wave plates, the photon becomes circularly polarized, and acquires a well- defined angular momentum. Supposing that the wave plate is free to rotate, it should acquire an angular momentum opposite to that of the photon, and rotate right or left, depending on the chirality of the photon." The quarter-wave plates in front of each slit cause there to be two interference patterns created at detector Ds. One associated with the right photons and one associated with the left photons. The cumulative coincidence counts of the two interference patterns results in Fig 7. "Experimentally, this can be done by placing a polarizer in the path of beam p and orientating it at +45° to select [|+>p] or at -45° to select [|->p]. The interference pattern is recovered through the coincidence detection of photons s and p. Notice that the fringes obtained in the two cases are out of phase. They are commonly called fringes and antifringes." The placement of the polarizer in the path of beam p derives the two interference patterns created at detector Ds. Cumulative coincidence counts of Fig. 4 and Fig. 5 result in Fig. 7. |