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From: Patti Bryant on 6 Apr 2010 11:56 Dave wrote: > Need to rewire (to add a ground) several outlets in my house, which will > require that I locate the breaker serving each outlet. Wondering if I > couldn't build my own circuit breaker identifier out of a 9VDC wall-wart and > some junkbox parts. Am thinking I could just use the wall-wart to run a > 10kHz oscillator, whose output would be picked up by the transformer in the > wall-wart and injected into the line thereby. A simple receiver with a > small coil antenna could be used at the breaker box to locate the breaker > with the signal going through it. The breaker with the loudest signal would > be the most likely one to shut off, to see if the signal stops. Bingo. > Leave that breaker off, test the outlet (just to make sure) and then unhook > the old wires and hook up the new wires to it before putting it back in the > wall. Sounds simple. Any obvious holes in my reasoning? I'm all ears... > > And yes, I could buy a breaker identifier, but all the reasonably priced > ones seem to have questionable results with some people, or are cheaply > made. > > Thanks, > > Dave > > You could use a radio and turn off each breaker individually but i doubt you could hear the radio throughout the house. And using a light won't work unless you have a one bedroom house. The best way to go about labeling your circuits would be to: [1] Get one of them 110 volt to car cigarette lighter adapters. [2] Plug in an Ipod car FM transmitter [3] Plug it in to a compatible Ipod [4] Download Lady Gaga's "Penis Face" on to your Ipod [5] Put "Penis Face" on repeat [6] Get an FM radio walkman [7] Tune the walkman to the channel that the Ipod Transmitter is tuned to. [8] Quickly go to the fuse box and turn off each circuit breaker or pull each fuse until "Penis Face" turns to static. [9] If unidentifed_circuits>0 then goto 1 I strongly suggest that you label each circuit with a magic marker to avoid having to go through this ordeal again. Whatever you do, don't just simply shut off the main breaker permanently just to avoid hearing "Penis Face" one more time.
From: Ecnerwal on 6 Apr 2010 20:13 In article <hpge71$rsi$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>, Patti Bryant <patti(a)bryantrv.com> wrote: > You could use a radio and turn off each breaker individually but i doubt > you could hear the radio throughout the house. You're either very deaf or you have a _very_ large house, aka, Stately Wayne Manor. More likely, you live under a poorly built bridge. > And using a light won't work unless you have a one bedroom house. It's actually possible to walk from the breaker panel to the room with the outlet, though extremely lazy people could use an extension cord run back to where it can be seen at the breaker panel. I saw Neil Armstong take one small step live and I have a dodgy knee, and I still can manage to climb the stairs from the breaker box to see if a lamp has gone out multiple times in a single hour. Which is about what it took when I sorted out a poorly labeled 3 bedroom house and didn't have a radio handy, nor care to put it off to track one down, when there were perfectly good lamps handy. -- Cats, coffee, chocolate...vices to live by
From: Dan on 7 Apr 2010 01:45 Tim Wescott wrote: > Dave wrote: >> Need to rewire (to add a ground) several outlets in my house, which >> will require that I locate the breaker serving each outlet. Wondering >> if I couldn't build my own circuit breaker identifier out of a 9VDC >> wall-wart and some junkbox parts. Am thinking I could just use the >> wall-wart to run a 10kHz oscillator, whose output would be picked up >> by the transformer in the wall-wart and injected into the line >> thereby. A simple receiver with a small coil antenna could be used at >> the breaker box to locate the breaker with the signal going through >> it. The breaker with the loudest signal would be the most likely one >> to shut off, to see if the signal stops. Bingo. Leave that breaker >> off, test the outlet (just to make sure) and then unhook the old wires >> and hook up the new wires to it before putting it back in the wall. >> Sounds simple. Any obvious holes in my reasoning? I'm all ears... >> >> And yes, I could buy a breaker identifier, but all the reasonably >> priced ones seem to have questionable results with some people, or are >> cheaply made. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dave >> >> > What's the matter with just switching off breakers one by one and seeing > what stops working? You'll spend less time resetting all your clocks > than you will making your fox & hound set, and it'll give you a chance > to label the box properly, so you'll only have to do it once. > I also labeled the actual switch and socket plates on the reverse side with the breaker number. As long as I am going to have to remove the plate anyway to effect repair I can just read the number. Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
From: Dave on 7 Apr 2010 08:23
"Dan" <B2431B(a)aol.com> wrote in message news:o_Uun.73177$NH1.58775(a)newsfe14.iad... > Tim Wescott wrote: >> Dave wrote: >>> Need to rewire (to add a ground) several outlets in my house, which will >>> require that I locate the breaker serving each outlet. Wondering if I >>> couldn't build my own circuit breaker identifier out of a 9VDC wall-wart >>> and some junkbox parts. Am thinking I could just use the wall-wart to >>> run a 10kHz oscillator, whose output would be picked up by the >>> transformer in the wall-wart and injected into the line thereby. A >>> simple receiver with a small coil antenna could be used at the breaker >>> box to locate the breaker with the signal going through it. The breaker >>> with the loudest signal would be the most likely one to shut off, to see >>> if the signal stops. Bingo. Leave that breaker off, test the outlet >>> (just to make sure) and then unhook the old wires and hook up the new >>> wires to it before putting it back in the wall. Sounds simple. Any >>> obvious holes in my reasoning? I'm all ears... >>> >>> And yes, I could buy a breaker identifier, but all the reasonably priced >>> ones seem to have questionable results with some people, or are cheaply >>> made. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Dave >>> >>> >> What's the matter with just switching off breakers one by one and seeing >> what stops working? You'll spend less time resetting all your clocks >> than you will making your fox & hound set, and it'll give you a chance to >> label the box properly, so you'll only have to do it once. >> > > I also labeled the actual switch and socket plates on the reverse side > with the breaker number. As long as I am going to have to remove the plate > anyway to effect repair I can just read the number. > > Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired *Good idea* Thank you. Dave |