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From: dagmargoodboat on 25 Mar 2010 09:39 (a.b.s.e. dropped, for Google) On Mar 25, 8:22 am, Bit Farmer <bit.far...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > richard wrote: > > flipper wrote: > >> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:16:44 +0000, richard > >> <mullens-delete...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > > >>> flipper wrote: > > >>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:14:36 -0700, Jim Thompson > >>>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-I...(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: > > >>>>> Quotation of the day... > > >>>>> "Let me remind you this has been going on for years. We are bringing > >>>>> it to a halt. The harsh fact of the matter is when youre going to > >>>>> pass legislation that will cover 300 [million] American people in > >>>>> different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative > >>>>> steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together > >>>>> _to_control_the_people_". John Dingell > > >>>>> ...Jim Thompson > > >>>> And now you know why public opposition didn't count for bean fart. > > >>> Public opposition was to the previous administration who were thrown > >>> out on their ears - and rightly so if I may venture ;-) > > >> And pray tell what does that fantasy have to do with ramming a > >> 'healthcare' bill through via bribery and every other conceivable > >> machination when all polls showed a majority of the people opposed it? > > > The previous "administration" "blew it" > > > You now see the consequences. Hard luck. > > > America, I'm informed, is a democracy. The last lot screwed up big > > time, so now the democrats have their turn. > > > At least the current president does not have a vacuum between his ears ! > > Not to mention that the last administration had the presidency for 8 years and > a majority in both houses for a good share of that time. What did they do on Health Care. > zip. What we've just done is worse than doing nothing, and a lot more expensive. > Instead they gave trillion dollar tax cuts to the rich that only motivated their greed to damn near bankrupt the nation. a) Not taking as much money from someone is not the same as giving them money. b) President Obama plans to make those cuts permanent. -- Cheers, James Arthur
From: Jon on 25 Mar 2010 14:25 "richard" <mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:EvFqn.521591$Dy7.371670(a)newsfe26.ams2... <snip> > > America, I'm informed, is a democracy. The last lot screwed up big time, > so now the democrats have their turn. > Representative Republic.... --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: Bit Farmer on 25 Mar 2010 19:59 flipper wrote: > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:27:25 -0500, Bit Farmer <bit.farmer(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> flipper wrote: >>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 08:52:49 +0000, richard >>> <mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>> >>>> flipper wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:16:44 +0000, richard >>>>> <mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> flipper wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:14:36 -0700, Jim Thompson >>>>>>> <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Quotation of the day... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Let me remind you this has been going on for years. We are bringing >>>>>>>> it to a halt. The harsh fact of the matter is when you�re going to >>>>>>>> pass legislation that will cover 300 [million] American people in >>>>>>>> different ways it takes a long time to do the necessary administrative >>>>>>>> steps that have to be taken to put the legislation together >>>>>>>> _to_control_the_people_". John Dingell >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ...Jim Thompson >>>>>>> And now you know why public opposition didn't count for bean fart. >>>>>> Public opposition was to the previous administration who were thrown out on their ears - and rightly so if I may venture ;-) >>>>> And pray tell what does that fantasy have to do with ramming a >>>>> 'healthcare' bill through via bribery and every other conceivable >>>>> machination when all polls showed a majority of the people opposed it? >>>> The previous "administration" "blew it" >>>> >>>> You now see the consequences. Hard luck. >>>> >>>> America, I'm informed, is a democracy. The last lot screwed up big time, so now the democrats have their turn. >>> And, again, that fantasy has not one blessed thing to do with ramming >>> a 'healthcare' bill through via bribery and every other conceivable >>> machination when all polls showed a majority of the people opposed it >> I prefer an acrimonious discussion > > I see why, considering the will of the people is going to be summarily > ignored by the current crop of despotic pima donnas. > >> to fear inspired unanimity like the Patriot Act. > > I hate to burst your bubble but securing the Nation from attack *is* > one of the explicitly enumerated powers in the Constitution and I dare > say you, yourself, would exhibit a modicum of 'fear' sitting inside > WTC 1 with airliner nose cone 5 feet from your window. > > >>> Telling me you didn't like Bush is not an excuse for anything. >> Gee, here I thought it was one of the reasons Obama was elected. > > Even if so it has nothing to do with ramming a 'healthcare' bill > through, via bribery and every other conceivable machination, when all > polls showed a majority of the people opposed it > >> I seem >> to recall hearing a campaign promise to enact a plan. > > Did you hear him detail the plan and explain he'd ram it through > Congress whether the people wanted it or not? > > Obama said a lot of things. Like, he ran ads extolling Clean Coal with > "Yes we can! Yes, we can!" while simultaneously telling his liberal > enviro pals to ignore it because his cap and trade program would put > anyone who used coal, clean or otherwise, out of business. > > So which 'platitude' did you believe? The public flim flam or the > private revelation? > > He said all healthcare negotiations would be televised on CSPAN, so > 'the people' would know exactly what was going on and what 'deals' > were made. Was it? No. > > He said all bills would be on the Internet for 5 days before he signed > them. Are they? No. Of course, that doesn't matter because he doesn't > give a flying fig that a majority opposed ObamaCare so 'seeing' it for > 5 days is nothing but smoke up your skirt. But then, everything he > says is smoke up your skirt. > > He fabricated doctors wantonly lopping off limbs and ripping the > tonsils out of poor innocent children. He said 'criticisms' of his > bill, except he had proposed no bill at the time, were lies because no > bill had yet passed out of committee yet, in the next breath, > proceeded to explain what was, supposedly, in 'the bill' he had just > said didn't exist. > > To this day he claims you can 'keep your healthcare plan if you want' > but the bill is explicitly designed to eliminate that plan and you > can't 'keep' what isn't there. It's pure demagoguery. > > I could go on and on but that would take days because almost nothing > he says in public can be taken at face value nor does it have any > relation to reality or what will be done and, IMO, that's no accident: > He knows the people wouldn't swallow what he intends to ram down their > throats. > > In private he explained his cap and trade program will "necessarily" > cause electricity rates to "skyrocket." Ok, everyone who voted for > skyrocketing electric bills hold up your hand. > > And I haven't even gotten into Pelosi not allowing anyone to 'read the > bills' before voting on them or Reid bribing Senators. But then, Rep > Conyers can't figure out any use to reading the bills anyway. > > Just last night Rep Weiner, what an appropriate name, declared that no > agent of the government will do any thing whatsoever to anyone who > refuses to comply with the health insurance mandate. Of course, he > called anyone who says otherwise a 'liar' and repeated it just in case > you missed the first go round. Oh really? Then why have a mandate and > add 16,000 IRS agents for the purpose of non enforcement? > > Of course, Reid insisted the income tax is 'voluntary'. LOL I mean, it > *would* be funny if it weren't for certifiable idiots like that being > in power. But I guess it explains why half the Administration can't > file proper income tax statements so, naturally, lets put them in > charge of tax law, financial institutions, and the economy. Actually, > that might be better than the self avowed communists and radicals who > looked to Mao for their inspiration but no luck there either. > > In all my life I have never seen anything even remotely close to the > blatant raw arrogance, corruption, despotism, demagoguery, > fabrication, and down right lies that come out of every level in this > Administration and Congress. > > But Castro just announced he thinks what they're doing is all just > peachy keen so I suppose that explains things. > >> Of course, I did not >> hear that from Rush, so I might be wrong. > > Maybe you would have 'heard' had you bothered to listen. LOL. More rightist drivel. Sorry you are having such a hard time these days.
From: richard on 26 Mar 2010 21:08 Jim Whitby wrote: > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:59:29 -0500, Bit Farmer wrote: > > >>LOL. More rightist drivel. Sorry you are having such a hard time these >>days. > > > > Another of those "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts". > lefties. > > What a breath of fresh air Obama is. We have an agreement on "nucular" arms reductions and at last a chill regarding the Israeli state's relentless theft of Palestinian land - progress unimaginable under the lunatic last administration - facts that I suppose will be disputed by numbskull lowbrow rightists.
From: dagmargoodboat on 26 Mar 2010 23:53
On Mar 26, 8:08 pm, richard <mullens-delete...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote: > Jim Whitby wrote: > > On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:59:29 -0500, Bit Farmer wrote: > > >>LOL. More rightist drivel. Sorry you are having such a hard time these > >>days. > > > Another of those "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts". > > lefties. > > What a breath of fresh air Obama is. He said his health care was under $900B. It isn't close. He said it cuts costs. It increases them. A lot. It violates our constitution in several ways, among them by adding government surveillance of people's health conditions and financial affairs, enforced by the IRS. He's reaffirmed and increased the Patriot Act. He has, in general, continued all the Bush policies that Democrats so demonized. He's seized companies, then given them to his friends. He talks to our enemies and abandons our friends. I especially like his "Nukes for North Korea" program. A breath of fresh air, indeed. -- Cheers, James Arthur |