From: richard on
Bert Hickman wrote:
> richard wrote:
>
>> dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 26, 8:08 pm, richard <mullens-delete...(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Jim Whitby wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:59:29 -0500, Bit Farmer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> LOL. More rightist drivel. Sorry you are having such a hard time
>>>>>> these
>>>>>> days.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Another of those "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts".
>>>>> lefties.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What a breath of fresh air Obama is.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> He said his health care was under $900B. It isn't close.
>>> He said it cuts costs. It increases them. A lot.
>>> It violates our constitution in several ways, among them by adding
>>> government surveillance of people's health conditions and financial
>>> affairs, enforced by the IRS.
>>>
>>> He's reaffirmed and increased the Patriot Act.
>>> He has, in general, continued all the Bush policies that Democrats so
>>> demonized.
>>>
>>> He's seized companies, then given them to his friends.
>>>
>>> He talks to our enemies and abandons our friends.
>>>
>>> I especially like his "Nukes for North Korea" program.
>>>
>>> A breath of fresh air, indeed.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>> James Arthur
>>
>>
>> "he talks to our enemies" - you just don't get it do you ?
>
>
> He abandons our friends - YOU just don't get it, do you?
>
>

Your "friend" Israel is the cause of US and UK soldiers being killed in Afganistan, 911 and much more besides. With friends
like that, who needs enemies ?
From: richard on
flipper wrote:
> On Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:08:10 +0000, richard
> <mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Jim Whitby wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:59:29 -0500, Bit Farmer wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>LOL. More rightist drivel. Sorry you are having such a hard time these
>>>>days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Another of those "My mind is made up, don't confuse me with facts".
>>>lefties.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>What a breath of fresh air Obama is.
>
>
> Sure, if self aggrandizing, despotic, and condescending pompous
> arrogance is the smell you like.
>
Pompous condescending arrogance is what I see when I read posts by "flipper"
in this venue seemingly for republican mutual masturbation.
>
>
>>We have an agreement on "nucular" arms reductions
>
>
> Well, aren't you the one to go all chewy gooey over a treaty you don't
> even know the full terms or history of.
>
> Lot easier 'negotiating' a treaty by appeasement, like Obama throwing
> our East European (Poland, for example) and former Soviet block States
> (remember Georgia?) under the bus, isn't it?
>
> This 'reduction' treaty follows the same path as Reagan's 'invention'
> of the idea, vs the previous SALT treaties, and follows his START I
> (proposed 1982, ratified 1991), Bush I's SALT II (1993), and Bush II's
> SORT Treaty (2002). Except they didn't have to stab our allies in the
> back to get them.
>
> SORT was criticized because it didn't call for actually destroying any
> warheads. Obama's doesn't either.
>
You're just a naysayer, no doubt you have us bombing Russia you're so boneheaded.
>
>>and at last a chill regarding the Israeli state's relentless theft of
>>Palestinian land
>
>
> Upset Hitler didn't have time to finish the job?

A remark worthy of a complete prat if I may say so.

>
> The, so called, 'Palestinian issue' is an unmitigated mess and there
> is no Disney Land, some day your prince will come, bippity boppity
> boo, glass slipper solution but a few, by no means comprehensive,
> historical facts.
>
> There has never been a, so called, 'Palestinian State'. Never.

So what ? There was never a jewish state either.

>
> Shortly after the collapse and breakup of the Ottoman Empire (which
> had acquired the lands by force of arms) it was proposed the 'whole
> thing' be an Arab state under the caveat they allow a modest amount of
> Jewish immigration for a limited number of years. The Arab
> 'leadership' promptly rejected it.

So what ?
>
> Thus the 'two state solution' was born, circa the 1920's (with many
> rebirths), Jordan was designated an 'Arab' portion of the British
> Mandate, and the Palestinians have been 'negotiating' themselves out
> of a 'country' ever since. As someone once opined, the Palestinians
> never miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity.

Just look at the maps on the Le Monde website showing the relentless erosion of Palestinian land, at odds with international law
and the subject of many UN resolutions that Israel just ignores supported by a partisan US policy and force of arms supplied by
the USA - facilitating the 100:1 ratio of deaths in the assault on Gaza - and ask yourself if perhaps you are not complicit to
murder ?
From: richard on
flipper wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:47:40 +0100, richard
> <mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>- facilitating the 100:1 ratio of deaths in the assault on Gaza
>
>
> In combat the object is to kill the active enemy, not to exchange
> deaths of your own one to one for the other, and the ideal combat
> ratio would be "all:0." 100:1, while good, is short of the ideal.
>
>
>>- and ask yourself if perhaps you are not complicit to
>>murder ?
>
>
> No more than Roosevelt was 'complicit to murder' Nazis during WWII.
>

You argue with words and think yourself so clever but your thoughts are fossilised and you lack any shred of humanity.
From: Sjouke Burry on
richard wrote:
> flipper wrote:
>> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:47:40 +0100, richard
>> <mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> - facilitating the 100:1 ratio of deaths in the assault on Gaza
>>
>> In combat the object is to kill the active enemy, not to exchange
>> deaths of your own one to one for the other, and the ideal combat
>> ratio would be "all:0." 100:1, while good, is short of the ideal.
>>
>>
>>> - and ask yourself if perhaps you are not complicit to
>>> murder ?
>>
>> No more than Roosevelt was 'complicit to murder' Nazis during WWII.
>>
>
> You argue with words and think yourself so clever but your thoughts are fossilised and you lack any shred of humanity.

I am glad the allied forces murdered as many nazis as they did.
My only regret is they forgot a few of them.
Like Demjanjuk and friends.
From: richard on
flipper wrote:
> On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 01:13:12 +0100, richard
> <mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
>>flipper wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:47:40 +0100, richard
>>><mullens-deleteme-(a)ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>- facilitating the 100:1 ratio of deaths in the assault on Gaza
>>>
>>>
>>>In combat the object is to kill the active enemy, not to exchange
>>>deaths of your own one to one for the other, and the ideal combat
>>>ratio would be "all:0." 100:1, while good, is short of the ideal.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>- and ask yourself if perhaps you are not complicit to
>>>>murder ?
>>>
>>>
>>>No more than Roosevelt was 'complicit to murder' Nazis during WWII.
>>>
>>
>>You argue with words
>
>
> Of course I argue with words. What are you using? chewing gum?
>
>
>>and think yourself so clever but your thoughts are fossilised
>
>
> If "clever" it comes from bothering to acquire more than a passing
> acquaintance with the facts and that's what irritates you. Reality
> doesn't conform to the sloganeering propaganda you've been fed.
>
>
>>and you lack any shred of humanity.
>
>
> Just what makes supporting the creation of a Palestinian State, like
> the U.S. has for 60 years, 'inhumane'? And while I'm at it, what makes
> you think that mindlessly bashing the U.S., Israel, and inflaming a 90
> year long conflict into an even longer one makes you 'humane'?
>
> Speaking of words, "humanity" encompasses all races and not just one
> who's 'leadership' has sworn to destroy another.
>
> If the Palestinians would work on actually creating a State, instead
> of incessant militant attacks on Israel that inevitably require a
> military response, they'd HAVE one and the main reason they don't is
> they're used as political pawns by extremist elements to, as has been
> the goal from the beginning, wipe the place clean of 'Jews'.
>
>
>
>
>
It's a waste of time talking to you as you are blind to the injustice being perpetuated upon the Palestinian people by the
Israeli state and their sponsors or stupid or most probably a nasty piece of work happy that this injustice should go ahead.