From: Grant on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:00:37 +1000, David Eather <eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote:

>On 1/08/2010 3:26 PM, Grant wrote:
>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:41:42 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/08/2010 12:53 PM, Grant wrote:
>> ...
>>>> Funny, 'cos seven others found the copy I put up on
>>>>
>>>> http://grrr.id.au/image/DoubleTach.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Grant.
>>>
>>> Sorry. I haven't been clear. I got the image on grrr.id.au - thank you
>>> indeed. I'm just giving up on retrieving / viewing from
>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net - although I like to follow every link and have a
>>> read.
>>
>> Okay, I misunderstood what you gave up on ;) Stuff happens.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Grant.
>
>It's really annoying 'cause I can download lots of stuff from FTP sites
>like this one
>
>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt

Just discovered how rusty I am in talking 'ftp' manually :)

ftp> open ftp.cis.uab.edu
Connected to juniper.cis.uab.edu.
220-Welcome to the UAB CIS ftp server
220-
220
Name (ftp.cis.uab.edu:grant): anonymous
331 Please specify the password.
Password:
230 Login successful.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
150 Here comes the directory listing.
- - -

for John L's site:

ftp> open jjlarkin.lmi.net
Connected to jjlarkin.lmi.net.
220 jjlarkin.lmi.net FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Wed Dec 5 16:35:31 PST 2001) ready.
Name (jjlarkin.lmi.net:grant): anonymous
331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
Password:
230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
Remote system type is UNIX.
Using binary mode to transfer files.
ftp> dir
200 PORT command successful.
150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
- - -

I don't see a big difference in how the sites respond to a manual ftp
session, the text after response code numbers is optional, for humans.

Perhaps your ISP might offer an insight?

Grant.
From: JosephKK on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:20:13 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:00:37 +1000, David Eather <eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
>>On 1/08/2010 3:26 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:41:42 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/08/2010 12:53 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> Funny, 'cos seven others found the copy I put up on
>>>>>
>>>>> http://grrr.id.au/image/DoubleTach.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Grant.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I haven't been clear. I got the image on grrr.id.au - thank you
>>>> indeed. I'm just giving up on retrieving / viewing from
>>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net - although I like to follow every link and have a
>>>> read.
>>>
>>> Okay, I misunderstood what you gave up on ;) Stuff happens.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant.
>>
>>It's really annoying 'cause I can download lots of stuff from FTP sites
>>like this one
>>
>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt
>
>Just discovered how rusty I am in talking 'ftp' manually :)
>
>ftp> open ftp.cis.uab.edu
>Connected to juniper.cis.uab.edu.
>220-Welcome to the UAB CIS ftp server
>220-
>220
>Name (ftp.cis.uab.edu:grant): anonymous
>331 Please specify the password.
>Password:
>230 Login successful.
>Remote system type is UNIX.
>Using binary mode to transfer files.
>ftp> dir
>200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
>150 Here comes the directory listing.
>- - -
>
>for John L's site:
>
>ftp> open jjlarkin.lmi.net
>Connected to jjlarkin.lmi.net.
>220 jjlarkin.lmi.net FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Wed Dec 5 16:35:31 PST 2001) ready.
>Name (jjlarkin.lmi.net:grant): anonymous
>331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
>Password:
>230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
>Remote system type is UNIX.
>Using binary mode to transfer files.
>ftp> dir
>200 PORT command successful.
>150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
>- - -
>
>I don't see a big difference in how the sites respond to a manual ftp
>session, the text after response code numbers is optional, for humans.
>
>Perhaps your ISP might offer an insight?
>
>Grant.

Not sure, but later one requests email address as password and the
former accepts a null password.
Nicht Wahr?
From: Grant on
On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:08:39 -0700, "JosephKK"<quiettechblue(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 10:20:13 +1000, Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:00:37 +1000, David Eather <eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>
>>>On 1/08/2010 3:26 PM, Grant wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:41:42 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/08/2010 12:53 PM, Grant wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>> Funny, 'cos seven others found the copy I put up on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://grrr.id.au/image/DoubleTach.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry. I haven't been clear. I got the image on grrr.id.au - thank you
>>>>> indeed. I'm just giving up on retrieving / viewing from
>>>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net - although I like to follow every link and have a
>>>>> read.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I misunderstood what you gave up on ;) Stuff happens.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Grant.
>>>
>>>It's really annoying 'cause I can download lots of stuff from FTP sites
>>>like this one
>>>
>>>ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt
>>
>>Just discovered how rusty I am in talking 'ftp' manually :)
>>
>>ftp> open ftp.cis.uab.edu
>>Connected to juniper.cis.uab.edu.
>>220-Welcome to the UAB CIS ftp server
>>220-
>>220
>>Name (ftp.cis.uab.edu:grant): anonymous
>>331 Please specify the password.
>>Password:
>>230 Login successful.
>>Remote system type is UNIX.
>>Using binary mode to transfer files.
>>ftp> dir
>>200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
>>150 Here comes the directory listing.
>>- - -
>>
>>for John L's site:
>>
>>ftp> open jjlarkin.lmi.net
>>Connected to jjlarkin.lmi.net.
>>220 jjlarkin.lmi.net FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Wed Dec 5 16:35:31 PST 2001) ready.
>>Name (jjlarkin.lmi.net:grant): anonymous
>>331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
>>Password:
>>230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
>>Remote system type is UNIX.
>>Using binary mode to transfer files.
>>ftp> dir
>>200 PORT command successful.
>>150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
>>- - -
>>
>>I don't see a big difference in how the sites respond to a manual ftp
>>session, the text after response code numbers is optional, for humans.
>>
>>Perhaps your ISP might offer an insight?
>>
>>Grant.
>
>Not sure, but later one requests email address as password and the
>former accepts a null password.
>Nicht Wahr?

They should accept anything in return for an 'anonymous' user's
password, your email addr is the old style polite thing to put in
there (couple decades ago). I usually say "please" :) Less to
type, and, that's what I entered on both sites above. Sys-admins
only want the IP addr from logs these days.

Null might not work.

It's normal for unix box to not echo anything (not even '*' per
char) for password entry.

My ftp server doesn't ask for a password (anonymous access only).
Confusion to the script-kiddiez!

Grant.
From: David Eather on
On 2/08/2010 10:20 AM, Grant wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 09:00:37 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote:
>
>> On 1/08/2010 3:26 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:41:42 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/08/2010 12:53 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> Funny, 'cos seven others found the copy I put up on
>>>>>
>>>>> http://grrr.id.au/image/DoubleTach.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Grant.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I haven't been clear. I got the image on grrr.id.au - thank you
>>>> indeed. I'm just giving up on retrieving / viewing from
>>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net - although I like to follow every link and have a
>>>> read.
>>>
>>> Okay, I misunderstood what you gave up on ;) Stuff happens.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant.
>>
>> It's really annoying 'cause I can download lots of stuff from FTP sites
>> like this one
>>
>> ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt
>
> Just discovered how rusty I am in talking 'ftp' manually :)
>
> ftp> open ftp.cis.uab.edu
> Connected to juniper.cis.uab.edu.
> 220-Welcome to the UAB CIS ftp server
> 220-
> 220
> Name (ftp.cis.uab.edu:grant): anonymous
> 331 Please specify the password.
> Password:
> 230 Login successful.
> Remote system type is UNIX.
> Using binary mode to transfer files.
> ftp> dir
> 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.
> 150 Here comes the directory listing.
> - - -
>
> for John L's site:
>
> ftp> open jjlarkin.lmi.net
> Connected to jjlarkin.lmi.net.
> 220 jjlarkin.lmi.net FTP server (Version wu-2.6.2(1) Wed Dec 5 16:35:31 PST 2001) ready.
> Name (jjlarkin.lmi.net:grant): anonymous
> 331 Guest login ok, send your complete e-mail address as password.
> Password:
> 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
> Remote system type is UNIX.
> Using binary mode to transfer files.
> ftp> dir
> 200 PORT command successful.
> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
> - - -
>
> I don't see a big difference in how the sites respond to a manual ftp
> session, the text after response code numbers is optional, for humans.
>
> Perhaps your ISP might offer an insight?
>
> Grant.

Yep - I'll talk to the ISP.
From: David Eather on
On 2/08/2010 9:29 AM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
> David Eather wrote:
>> On 1/08/2010 3:26 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:41:42 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/08/2010 12:53 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> Funny, 'cos seven others found the copy I put up on
>>>>>
>>>>> http://grrr.id.au/image/DoubleTach.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Grant.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I haven't been clear. I got the image on grrr.id.au - thank you
>>>> indeed. I'm just giving up on retrieving / viewing from
>>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net - although I like to follow every link and
>>>> have a
>>>> read.
>>>
>>> Okay, I misunderstood what you gave up on ;) Stuff happens.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant.
>>
>> It's really annoying 'cause I can download lots of stuff from FTP
>> sites like this one
>>
>> ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt
>
> I had a firewall issue with lmi.net at one point too. It turned out to
> be a misconfigured home router.
>
> Cheers
>
> Phil Hobbs
>

Thanks.

I spent hours on this one - and then it hit me - I don't have a router
!!! :-D (just wireless broadband)

You don't happen to use ESET system security do you?

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