From: Dave Platt on
>> ftp> dir
>> 200 PORT command successful. Consider using PASV.

>> 200 PORT command successful.
>> 150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.

>> I don't see a big difference in how the sites respond to a manual ftp
>> session, the text after response code numbers is optional, for humans.
>>
>> Perhaps your ISP might offer an insight?

>Yep - I'll talk to the ISP.

The key may be the hint about using PASV mode, especially if you're
behind any sort of firewall at all (including software firewalls).

A normal command-line FTP client will usually use "active" mode, in
which it opens a port on which it wants the server to "push" the file
being transferred... it sends this port number to the server in a
"PORT" command. If you're behind a firewall or NAT router (or both),
the firewall/router has to be smart enough to intercept the contents
of the PORT command, and "open a pinhole" in the firewall and/or
rewrite the port number. Many simple firewalls/routers can't do this.

The alternative is "passive" FTP, which browsers tend to use and which
command-line FTP clients often support (either via a "-p" command line
option, or a "passive" command to the client shell). In this mode,
the client sends the retrieval command, awaits the response, and then
sends the "PASV" command... the server opens a port, and sends back
the port number to the client. The client then opens an outbound
connection to the server port... this usually gets through the
firewall OK and doesn't require the rewriting of the command.

So... try "ftp -p hostname" rather than just "ftp hostname", and it
might work better.

--
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From: markp on

"markp" <map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in message
news:8bmed6FkrhU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>
> "David Eather" <eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message
> news:CIqdna68SMcEYcjRnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>> On 1/08/2010 3:26 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:41:42 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 1/08/2010 12:53 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> ...
>>>>> Funny, 'cos seven others found the copy I put up on
>>>>>
>>>>> http://grrr.id.au/image/DoubleTach.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Grant.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I haven't been clear. I got the image on grrr.id.au - thank you
>>>> indeed. I'm just giving up on retrieving / viewing from
>>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net - although I like to follow every link and have
>>>> a
>>>> read.
>>>
>>> Okay, I misunderstood what you gave up on ;) Stuff happens.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Grant.
>>
>> It's really annoying 'cause I can download lots of stuff from FTP sites
>> like this one
>>
>> ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt
>
> OK, try this, a web based ftp proxy server:
> http://www.webftp.jbi.in/
>
> put jjlarkin.lmi.net as the ftp server, tick anonymous and passive boxes.
>
> Mark.
>

Did this work?

Mark.


From: David Eather on
On 3/08/2010 6:47 PM, markp wrote:
> "markp"<map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in message
> news:8bmed6FkrhU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "David Eather"<eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:CIqdna68SMcEYcjRnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>> On 1/08/2010 3:26 PM, Grant wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:41:42 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 1/08/2010 12:53 PM, Grant wrote:
>>>> ...
>>>>>> Funny, 'cos seven others found the copy I put up on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://grrr.id.au/image/DoubleTach.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grant.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry. I haven't been clear. I got the image on grrr.id.au - thank you
>>>>> indeed. I'm just giving up on retrieving / viewing from
>>>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net - although I like to follow every link and have
>>>>> a
>>>>> read.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, I misunderstood what you gave up on ;) Stuff happens.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Grant.
>>>
>>> It's really annoying 'cause I can download lots of stuff from FTP sites
>>> like this one
>>>
>>> ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt
>>
>> OK, try this, a web based ftp proxy server:
>> http://www.webftp.jbi.in/
>>
>> put jjlarkin.lmi.net as the ftp server, tick anonymous and passive boxes.
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>
> Did this work?
>
> Mark.
>
>

Sorry - I just tried it. Works great.
From: markp on

"David Eather" <eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:SKOdna4i-f_LssXRnZ2dnUVZ_gidnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> On 3/08/2010 6:47 PM, markp wrote:
>> "markp"<map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in message
>> news:8bmed6FkrhU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "David Eather"<eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:CIqdna68SMcEYcjRnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>>> On 1/08/2010 3:26 PM, Grant wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:41:42 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/08/2010 12:53 PM, Grant wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Funny, 'cos seven others found the copy I put up on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://grrr.id.au/image/DoubleTach.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry. I haven't been clear. I got the image on grrr.id.au - thank
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> indeed. I'm just giving up on retrieving / viewing from
>>>>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net - although I like to follow every link and
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> read.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I misunderstood what you gave up on ;) Stuff happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Grant.
>>>>
>>>> It's really annoying 'cause I can download lots of stuff from FTP sites
>>>> like this one
>>>>
>>>> ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt
>>>
>>> OK, try this, a web based ftp proxy server:
>>> http://www.webftp.jbi.in/
>>>
>>> put jjlarkin.lmi.net as the ftp server, tick anonymous and passive
>>> boxes.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>
>> Did this work?
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>
> Sorry - I just tried it. Works great.

Well at least you now have access. But I bet you're like me, if something is
supposed to work and doesn't you'll want to find out why..:)

Mark.



From: John Larkin on
On Wed, 04 Aug 2010 01:01:42 +1000, David Eather <eather(a)tpg.com.au>
wrote:

>On 3/08/2010 6:47 PM, markp wrote:
>> "markp"<map.nospam(a)f2s.com> wrote in message
>> news:8bmed6FkrhU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>
>>> "David Eather"<eather(a)tpg.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:CIqdna68SMcEYcjRnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>>> On 1/08/2010 3:26 PM, Grant wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 14:41:42 +1000, David Eather<eather(a)tpg.com.au>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 1/08/2010 12:53 PM, Grant wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> Funny, 'cos seven others found the copy I put up on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://grrr.id.au/image/DoubleTach.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Grant.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry. I haven't been clear. I got the image on grrr.id.au - thank you
>>>>>> indeed. I'm just giving up on retrieving / viewing from
>>>>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net - although I like to follow every link and have
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> read.
>>>>>
>>>>> Okay, I misunderstood what you gave up on ;) Stuff happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Grant.
>>>>
>>>> It's really annoying 'cause I can download lots of stuff from FTP sites
>>>> like this one
>>>>
>>>> ftp://ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt
>>>
>>> OK, try this, a web based ftp proxy server:
>>> http://www.webftp.jbi.in/
>>>
>>> put jjlarkin.lmi.net as the ftp server, tick anonymous and passive boxes.
>>>
>>> Mark.
>>>
>>
>> Did this work?
>>
>> Mark.
>>
>>
>
>Sorry - I just tried it. Works great.

I never intended to make this difficult. I just asked my ISP to give
me a place to post files. I haven't ever had problems accessing this
or other peoples' FTP sites using Firefox.

It also shows up as ftp://66.117.156.8/

I don't know much about this stuff. If there are any settings my ISP
could change to simplify access, please let me know.

My cabin automation system bounces status and control files through
this FTP site; see CABIN.TXT, which is updated once a minute by a
netbook PC in the ski boot closet.

ftp://66.117.156.8/CABIN.TXT
ftp://66.117.156.8/Auto_wired.jpg

I wrote the code in PowerBasic, shelling out to the Windows 'ftp'
command here and there.

Note that Truckee is, in the summer, usually the coldest town in
California, and often the coldest in the country. It hit 32F last
night, when San Francisco only got down to the low 50's. It's 53F here
right now.

John

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