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From: Warren Oates on 10 May 2010 07:34
In article <krishna-ED8E19.17581709052010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
krishnananda <krishna(a)divine-life.in.invalid> wrote:

> 5. Use a text editor.
>
> 7. Switch to Windows and use a text editor. Or if you really want to
> screw things up, use Microsoft Word.
>
> 8. Switch to Unix and use vi.

I generally use Emacs, with some local work in TextEdit, but,
surprisingly, MS Word (2004) has a very useful text-only mode that I've
worked with and thought about switching to. The keyboard commands need
to be relearned, of course.
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
From: Warren Oates on 10 May 2010 07:36
In article <dorayme-2B88DD.18132510052010(a)news.albasani.net>,
dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:

> Yes, the stuff on the top is just epiphenomena...

That's like stigmata, right?
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
From: Sherm Pendley on 10 May 2010 10:21
John Wolf <jwolf6589(a)THUNDERBIRDgmail.com> writes:

> To be honest I am not exactly sure how to fix the errors. But found a
> solution to use Text Wrangler for the time being. Unless you know of
> another alternative? Do you?

TW's big brother, BBEdit, has additional HTML tools - stuff like being
able to select many element types and pop up an "edit element" dialog
box. Also, a validator and tidy utility.

It's kind of pricy, but well worth it - BBEdit is quite literally the
#1 reason I bought my first Mac. :-)

sherm--
From: Sherm Pendley on 10 May 2010 10:26
Ben C <spamspam(a)spam.eggs> writes:

> Mac OSX _is_ UNIX, so you already switched to it.

When my friends ask "when did you become a Mac guy?" I always answer
by saying "I didn't - Apple became a UNIX company." :-)

sherm--
From: David Stone on 10 May 2010 10:16
In article <BfEFn.2126$rU6.236(a)newsfe10.iad>,
John Wolf <jwolf6589(a)THUNDERBIRDgmail.com> wrote:

> On 5/9/10 3:25 PM, Mike Rosenberg wrote:
> > John Wolf<jwolf6589(a)THUNDERBIRDgmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> To be honest I am not exactly sure how to fix the errors. But found a
> >> solution to use Text Wrangler for the time being. Unless you know of
> >> another alternative? Do you?
> >
> > There are dozens of alternatives, but it always comes down to the same
> > thing: If your html is valid, it's displayed uniformly. If it's not
> > valid, what happens is anyone's guess.
> >
> > TextWrangler is a text editor. If you open a page with it, you can
> > directly make the changes indicated by validator.w3.org - HOW is a
> > matter of editing text like one does whenever one edits text.
> >
>
> Every page you put through that website has errors. But what I did find
> was a alternative. The web based HTML editor of HostGator's file manager
> allows me to edit the HTML file (cerm's index.htm file) and allows me to
> make changes, add content, and the borders, nor the links get screwed up
> as a result. For some reason it was able to open the file without
> loading the style sheets which I think is what did the trick and what
> ClarisHome page did. I wonder how I could use Sea Monkey or Kompoer to
> do this, sparing me the hassle of logging into my gator account all the
> time.

I do not understand what you mean by "without loading the style sheets"?
I haven't used either Sea Monkey or Komposer (I mainly use DreamWeaver
in code mode), but wouldn't you _want_ to be able to see both the html
_and_ the css? If these tools are not displaying the page content as
you want, it probably means there is content that needs to be removed
(as also evidenced by the validator errors and warnings you have been
referred to by numerous others).

When I used Claris Home Page in the past (early 1990s) I edited in
code mode, and checked the appearance of the pages in Netscape or
Explorer. I switched to using the CodeWarrior IDE as my text editor,
and Fetch for ftp to the server. And, in keeping with posts else-
thread: yes, I have used vi to edit pages, both via Terminal and
live on the server (though I wouldn't recommend the latter!)

One final thought: had you considered using some utility to strip
out your pages to the bare content, and then assembling them in
iWeb? Not necessarily what I would recommend (for a number of
reasons), but it would be an up-to-date "Home Page". Just a thought...
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