From: JF Mezei on
This past week, Canada has lost access to unfettered internet. The
government is to allow the Telco to dictate the terms of service of its
competitors and limit how much bandwidth are are allowed every month (in
order to protect its new IPTV legacy TV distribution service).

As a result, i will need to monitor my data transfer volume at the
router/switch/modem levels.

Out of the box, does anyone know what SNMP client tools exist with OS-X
and/or OS-X Server ?

In other words, if I need to query a router once a day at midnight to
get the volume of data on an interface, are there (command line) tools
already installed on my machines to do this ?

From: Tim McNamara on
In article <4be62f4b$0$1600$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> This past week, Canada has lost access to unfettered internet. The
> government is to allow the Telco to dictate the terms of service of
> its competitors and limit how much bandwidth are are allowed every
> month (in order to protect its new IPTV legacy TV distribution
> service).
>
> As a result, i will need to monitor my data transfer volume at the
> router/switch/modem levels.
>
> Out of the box, does anyone know what SNMP client tools exist with
> OS-X and/or OS-X Server ?
>
> In other words, if I need to query a router once a day at midnight to
> get the volume of data on an interface, are there (command line)
> tools already installed on my machines to do this ?

Try "man snmpd" in Terminal.
From: Barry Margolin on
In article <timmcn-064DCC.14180309052010(a)news-1.mpls.iphouse.net>,
Tim McNamara <timmcn(a)bitstream.net> wrote:

> In article <4be62f4b$0$1600$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
> JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:
>
> > This past week, Canada has lost access to unfettered internet. The
> > government is to allow the Telco to dictate the terms of service of
> > its competitors and limit how much bandwidth are are allowed every
> > month (in order to protect its new IPTV legacy TV distribution
> > service).
> >
> > As a result, i will need to monitor my data transfer volume at the
> > router/switch/modem levels.
> >
> > Out of the box, does anyone know what SNMP client tools exist with
> > OS-X and/or OS-X Server ?
> >
> > In other words, if I need to query a router once a day at midnight to
> > get the volume of data on an interface, are there (command line)
> > tools already installed on my machines to do this ?
>
> Try "man snmpd" in Terminal.

That's a server, he asked about client tools.

Try "ls /usr/bin/snmp*" and you'll see that it comes with the full
complement of CLI SNMP clients.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
From: David Empson on
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> This past week, Canada has lost access to unfettered internet. The
> government is to allow the Telco to dictate the terms of service of its
> competitors and limit how much bandwidth are are allowed every month (in
> order to protect its new IPTV legacy TV distribution service).
>
> As a result, i will need to monitor my data transfer volume at the
> router/switch/modem levels.
>
> Out of the box, does anyone know what SNMP client tools exist with OS-X
> and/or OS-X Server ?
>
> In other words, if I need to query a router once a day at midnight to
> get the volume of data on an interface, are there (command line) tools
> already installed on my machines to do this ?

An earlier subthread mentions command line tools, but I'm dubious
whether you will actually get the information you need via SNMP.

Given the number of octets tranmitted and received on the Internet
interface on your router, you at least have a gross estimate of traffic,
but that might not be what the ISP is counting.

For example, on a PPPoE or other Ethernet connection, the interface
counts will include Ethernet framing overhead, and this might be more
than the ISP is counting, since it is only the IP header and body which
need to be sent via the Internet.

There may also be certain sites which don't count towards your monthly
limit, e.g. traffic to/from the ISP's own web site.

The end result is that your own running count of traffic is likely to be
an overestimate of usage.


If the ISP is going to be charging by volume, they should have some
mechanism to allow you to monitor your usage.

Most people in New Zealand have volume-limited broadband, and each ISP
has a usage tracking mechanism on their web site, at least a total for
the current billing cycle. My cable provider goes as far as giving
monthly, daily and hourly usage graphs, and lets me download a .csv file
with an hourly breakdown of bytes transferred, but not revealing any
detail such as protocols or sites.

Another provider did a breakdown by major protocol (e.g. HTTP, E-mail
and "other").

--
David Empson
dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: JF Mezei on
To Barry Margolin: many thanks for the pointer.



David Empson wrote:

> An earlier subthread mentions command line tools, but I'm dubious
> whether you will actually get the information you need via SNMP.

That is something I need to test. I have a cisco router and cisco
switch, and those should have such counts available via snmp. I just
have to work to see if they do. The ADSL modem *might* have that, but I
have to see if it supports snmp properly.



> There may also be certain sites which don't count towards your monthly
> limit, e.g. traffic to/from the ISP's own web site.

The telco is intercepting traffic bewteen me and my ISP as PPPoE packets
and pretends its count is accurate, but at the CRTC, they had to admit
it isn't because it also has DPI equipment which purposefully drops
packets which are counted by its router.

So my count will not match that of the big bad telco, and will not match
that of my ISP, and my ISP's count will not match that of the telco. But
the telco will be billing the ISP for my particular usage. My ISP has no
choice but to rebill me those exhorbitant amounts and there will be no
mechanisms to contest those amounts. The ISP's own counter (once they
develop one) will not match the telco's.

By gathering accurate stats before and after the big bad telco, it
increases the odds of a succesful challenge of Bell canada bad counters
when going to the regulators.

> The end result is that your own running count of traffic is likely to be
> an overestimate of usage.

What the ISPs have seen so far was Bell's number being higher than their
own.



> If the ISP is going to be charging by volume, they should have some
> mechanism to allow you to monitor your usage.

It isn't the ISP. It is the big bad telco which was supposed to provide
pointr to point raw data transfers and not be involved in all in this.
The service is capacity based.
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