Rather Polite of Him, Wouldn't You Say?
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From: LX-i on 20 Nov 2006 19:32 docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: > > I'm not sure... and I tried, earlier, to move the discussion away from > murder and towards politesse. It becomes even more complex when one > attempts a measure of 'being polite'... it might be that an act of good > manners, in one place and time, is an insult or an admission of weakness > in others. > > ('He let me go through the door first because he realises that I am > superior to him.') This is a very good insight. Of course, we have this even in our own society between men and women. A man opens the door for a woman - she's either a) grateful for the show of respect, b) spoiled to the point where she doesn't even recognize the gesture, or c) offended because she was treated differently. Same problems if you let them get their own door, but in reverse. (Of course, my answer to those who respond with "c" is usually something like "I'm not treating you differently; I'm respectful to men and women both!") -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~ / \ / ~ Live from Montgomery, AL! ~ ~ / \/ o ~ ~ ~ / /\ - | ~ daniel(a)thebelowdomain ~ ~ _____ / \ | ~ http://www.djs-consulting.com ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ GEEKCODE 3.12 GCS/IT d s-:+ a C++ L++ E--- W++ N++ o? K- w$ ~ ~ !O M-- V PS+ PE++ Y? !PGP t+ 5? X+ R* tv b+ DI++ D+ G- e ~ ~ h---- r+++ z++++ ~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Who is more irrational? A man who believes in a God he doesn't see, or a man who's offended by a God he doesn't believe in?" - Brad Stine
From: Pete Dashwood on 21 Nov 2006 03:29 "Alistair" <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:1164056885.578571.326160(a)f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: >> In article <1164045562.179587.56900(a)h54g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >> Alistair <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> > >> >docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: >> >> [snip - I apologise to myself for the midsentence interruption] >> >> >> ... 'Cowards die a thousand deaths, the valiant taste of death >> >> but once'.) >> > >> >But in living longer, one would expect that the average number of a >> >cowards' offspring is greater than that of the average valiant man. >> >> Perhaps so, perhaps no... in addition to living longer there's a little >> matter of attracting mates... and then the process of mating... and then >> the viability of the offspring generated by such mating... it can be seen >> as moderately intricate, once one thinks along those lines... of course, >> the problem with that might be, for some, instead of relying on the dicta >> of fiction-authors they, themselves, might have to do something called >> 'thinking'... I think. >> >> DD > > Methinks that the law of large numbers is on my side. Also, > remember that it is written thus: the meek shall inherit the earth. > Only if the rest of us don't mind... Besides, it was the Greeks who will inherit the earth, wasn't it? Pete.
From: on 21 Nov 2006 05:09 In article <dd54m2tqtjqut98kjv3971ckc989oqmusp(a)4ax.com>, Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote: >On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 19:02:21 +0000 (UTC), docdwarf(a)panix.com () wrote: > >>('He let me go through the door first because he realises that I am >>superior to him.') >> >>How a 'good person' treats others - and how treating others causes one to >>be seen as a 'good person' - is, to my mind, a wee bit more involved than >>a simple 'You do (x) because if you don't you may precipitate an incident >>involving weapons'. > >People who use particular phrases that they were taught to use as a >child come across as polite - but when those words are only words, >said out of habit - I'm not going to assume that they are any more >considerate than someone whose parents taught him different. I'm going to assume that folks are capable, at times, of exercising what maight be called 'choice' in their actions. Beyond that a bit of mire might begin. DD
From: on 21 Nov 2006 05:12 In article <4733$45624909$454920f8$31734(a)KNOLOGY.NET>, LX-i <lxi0007(a)netscape.net> wrote: >docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: >> >> I'm not sure... and I tried, earlier, to move the discussion away from >> murder and towards politesse. It becomes even more complex when one >> attempts a measure of 'being polite'... it might be that an act of good >> manners, in one place and time, is an insult or an admission of weakness >> in others. >> >> ('He let me go through the door first because he realises that I am >> superior to him.') > >This is a very good insight. I can't say it is original... but I've had it for so long that I don't know where I found it. >Of course, we have this even in our own >society between men and women. I've noticed similar things a few other places and not limited to interactions between the sexes... but maybe that's only because one may find what one looks for. DD
From: on 21 Nov 2006 05:15
In article <1164056729.986458.317170(a)f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, Alistair <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: >> In article <1164045771.648687.236880(a)j44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> Alistair <alistair(a)ld50macca.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> > >> >docdwarf(a)panix.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Quite the sociologist, I've heard... do tell, where and when did he do his >> >> field studies? Was there a particular methodolgy applied... or did he >> >> just sit in a house-trailer and write Tall Tales? [snip] >> >Doc, you should know better than to use the term METHODOLOGY (the study >> >of methods) when you obviously mean METHOD. >> >> Mr Maclean, I intended to inquire into the body of methods, rules and >> postulates employed by the sociologist in question; that is, by at least >> one definition (http://m-w.com/dictionary/methodology) a methodology. >> > >So a methodology may be the application of a body of methods or a >singular method. Not according to my reading of the definition posted, Mr Maclean, no. >That screws Prince2. I can't say I know him well enough to inquire into his personal life. DD |