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From: Me, ...again! on 9 Jun 2010 09:26


On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Peter Webb wrote:

>
> "Koobee Wublee" <koobee.wublee(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:75a624f8-168f-4adf-b270-2f447a1b1960(a)x27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jun 8, 7:39 am, "Peter Webb" wrote:
>>> Koobee Wublee wrote:
>>
>>> > The mutual time dilation that manifests the twin's paradox has never
>>> > been observed. All observations have indicated an absolute
>>> > simultaneity. All observations have challenged SR and GR. I have
>>> > addressed all that in the past. <shrug>
>>>
>>> God knows *exactly* what you mean by the term "mutual time dilation" -
>>> cranks love inventing new terminology, almost as much as they like
>>> misappropriating old terminology.
>>
>> So, you don't understand SR after all.
>>
>>> If you mean that the effects of the twin's paradox has not been observed,
>>> that is a complete nonsense. It has been directly tested on a macro scale
>>> by
>>> flying clocks in airplanes. Time dilation itself is observed every day in
>>> particle accelerators.
>>
>> The mutual time dilation a paradox. The paradox can never be
>> observed, and the paradox has never been observed.
>
> Simply untrue. People have flown clocks in airplanes, for example Science
> Vol. 177 pg 166-170 (1972) and in many other direct experiments.

Thanks for that specific reference. I may have even seen it back then. I
read Science, continuously since about mid 1960s till I retired in 1996.



>
>> All observations
>> are strictly limiting to one frame which would break this symmetry.
>> <shrug>
>
> Whatever that is supposed to mean. You can look at the clocks in any way you
> like, the travelling twin does age less, and this has been demonstrated many
> times experimentally.
>
>
>>
>>> If you think SR is wrong, you first have to show some experimental
>>> evidence
>>> in conflict with SR.
>>
>> Your airplane experiment is a fine example. <shrug>
>
> Well, show some experimental evidence.
>
> When people actually do transport clocks on aeroplanes, and satellites, and
> spacecraft the travelling clock ages less. When we fire particles around
> cyclotrons we fgind the same thing. When we analyse cosmic rays we see the
> same thing.
>
> The huge body of experimental evidence in support of SR is summarised here:
>
> http://www.xs4all.nl/~johanw/PhysFAQ/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
>
> Now, how about you provide the experimental evidence for some other theory,
> and what that theory is, right here:
>
>
>>
>>> Of course, you can't.
>>>
>>> So I guess you are probably wrong, huh?
>>
>> What an idiot you are! <shrug>
>>
>>
>
> Hmmm. Another claim without evidence.
>
> Don't forget to post that list of peer reviewed research of experiments which
> disprove SR, something like that list I provided above would be great.
>
>
>
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