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From: Jonathan Kay [MVP] on 1 Jun 2010 13:30
You're welcome Mark :)

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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2010 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
Farewell newsgroup
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"Linea Recta" <mccm.vos(a)abc.invalid> wrote in message
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> Thanks for your help so far!
>
>
>
> --
> regards,
>
> |\ /|
> | \/ |@rk
> \../
> \/os
>

From: Drew on 1 Jun 2010 19:36
Thanks Jonathan you have been most helpful over the years both to myself and
countless others..

"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies(a)jonathankay.com> wrote in message
news:OGdc2bTALHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Greetings,
>
> On this eve of the end of these newsgroups, I thought I would do some
> reflection on the newsgroups, myself and Messenger.
>
> The first Messenger group was microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger which
> was intended for Windows Messenger in Windows XP (which at the time was
> the same as MSN Messenger). When I arrived in the group in 2001, the only
> one monitoring the posts was then NetMeeting MVP Brian Sullivan. I
> quickly realized I was able to answer plenty of the questions asked and
> moved in. A few years later Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger were
> split into separate products and a microsoft.public.msn.messenger was
> created for that new version of Messenger. Later on of course, MSN
> Messenger was changed to Windows Live Messenger and the last and final
> newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger was born.
>
> Unfortunately as the years have progressed, the newsgroups have had less
> and less exposure and have all but been absent from Microsoft's official
> support web pages. As a result, traffic has been slow compared to what it
> used to be, but still steady for the past year or so.
>
> For those who don't know, I have been a Microsoft MVP since 1998 and a
> Messenger MVP since 2001. Interestingly, up until a year ago, I had a
> perfect newsgroup record - that is, never missing a day of posts,
> including weekends, holidays and small surgeries. As Microsoft's Netscan
> service has been shut down for some time and Google and other web services
> haven't processed the groups from the beginning, an exact post total isn't
> available, but according to my Sent Items, I have posted around 50,000
> posts in my 9 year messenger newsgroup career.
>
> As for Messenger itself, the product remains the top instant messaging
> client statistically, but some recent decisions both in the latest
> iteration of the 2009 client and upcoming 2010 client have saddened me and
> my impression of the product. Frankly Messenger has such potential to be
> an amazing, indispensable, collaborative communication tool for work,
> education and recreation. I do hope it reaches its true potential
> someday.
>
> Although I do wish that Microsoft would continue to delight us with their
> own ideas, they really do need to listen to the feedback of their public
> and Messenger community. This is an area that really needs improvement,
> as situations such as the recent removal of Webcam really shows that
> Microsoft doesn't grasp how their users actually use their product.
> Additionally, there are plenty of features within the product that are in
> dire need of updating, from message logging/history to the emoticon
> picker.
>
> As the full end of the Microsoft newsgroups draws nearer in the coming
> months (the smaller groups like this one close sooner), it really is the
> end of an era for me. As I first started frequenting the groups when I
> was 14 (now 27, almost 28), losing the groups is like losing an old
> friend. They will be missed.
>
> So, anyone reading this, I bid you goodbye and wish you all the best. If
> you need to contact me directly, my e-mail address attached to these posts
> should continue to work, or you can head over to www.jonathankay.com or
> www.messengergeek.com to find me. Please feel free to drop me a line and
> say hello, I'd love to hear from you.
>
> I was hoping to have some sort of alternative to the newsgroup by this
> time, but there have only been a few weeks since the announcement of the
> closure of the groups. The "new home" for Messenger support will be the
> Windows Live Solution Center
> (http://windowslivehelp.com/forums.aspx?productid=2), so I will be moving
> there for the time being.
>
> Finally, I'd like to thank those who supported and believed in me all
> these years including Sherry Irwin, Corey Gouker, Dominic Hopton, Mark
> Salloway, Jonathan Maltz, Tony Hynes, Jeri La May, Erwin Lips, John Furda,
> Jeff Houston, Cyril Paciullo, Stephen Boots, Winston, Robear Dyer, any of
> the other former and present MVPs I've missed, Menno, Mark Vos, and many,
> many others.
>
> Thanks for everything and see you on the flip side.
>
> Farewell,
> --
> Jonathan Kay
> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
> (c) 2010 Jonathan Kay
> Last day to go!
> --
>
>
>
From: Jonathan Kay [MVP] on 1 Jun 2010 21:06
Much appreciated Drew, glad I could be helpful :)

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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2010 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
Still here, or something...
--

"Drew" <Aylen1957(a)invalid.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:EBFC1B29-7C81-4EBA-AE4C-47DDF7EBDE28(a)microsoft.com...
> Thanks Jonathan you have been most helpful over the years both to myself and countless
> others..
>
> "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies(a)jonathankay.com> wrote in message
> news:OGdc2bTALHA.1888(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> Greetings,
>>
>> On this eve of the end of these newsgroups, I thought I would do some reflection on the
>> newsgroups, myself and Messenger.
>>
>> The first Messenger group was microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger which was intended for
>> Windows Messenger in Windows XP (which at the time was the same as MSN Messenger). When I
>> arrived in the group in 2001, the only one monitoring the posts was then NetMeeting MVP
>> Brian Sullivan. I quickly realized I was able to answer plenty of the questions asked and
>> moved in. A few years later Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger were split into separate
>> products and a microsoft.public.msn.messenger was created for that new version of
>> Messenger. Later on of course, MSN Messenger was changed to Windows Live Messenger and
>> the last and final newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger was born.
>>
>> Unfortunately as the years have progressed, the newsgroups have had less and less exposure
>> and have all but been absent from Microsoft's official support web pages. As a result,
>> traffic has been slow compared to what it used to be, but still steady for the past year
>> or so.
>>
>> For those who don't know, I have been a Microsoft MVP since 1998 and a Messenger MVP since
>> 2001. Interestingly, up until a year ago, I had a perfect newsgroup record - that is,
>> never missing a day of posts, including weekends, holidays and small surgeries. As
>> Microsoft's Netscan service has been shut down for some time and Google and other web
>> services haven't processed the groups from the beginning, an exact post total isn't
>> available, but according to my Sent Items, I have posted around 50,000 posts in my 9 year
>> messenger newsgroup career.
>>
>> As for Messenger itself, the product remains the top instant messaging client
>> statistically, but some recent decisions both in the latest iteration of the 2009 client
>> and upcoming 2010 client have saddened me and my impression of the product. Frankly
>> Messenger has such potential to be an amazing, indispensable, collaborative communication
>> tool for work, education and recreation. I do hope it reaches its true potential someday.
>>
>> Although I do wish that Microsoft would continue to delight us with their own ideas, they
>> really do need to listen to the feedback of their public and Messenger community. This is
>> an area that really needs improvement, as situations such as the recent removal of Webcam
>> really shows that Microsoft doesn't grasp how their users actually use their product.
>> Additionally, there are plenty of features within the product that are in dire need of
>> updating, from message logging/history to the emoticon picker.
>>
>> As the full end of the Microsoft newsgroups draws nearer in the coming months (the smaller
>> groups like this one close sooner), it really is the end of an era for me. As I first
>> started frequenting the groups when I was 14 (now 27, almost 28), losing the groups is
>> like losing an old friend. They will be missed.
>>
>> So, anyone reading this, I bid you goodbye and wish you all the best. If you need to
>> contact me directly, my e-mail address attached to these posts should continue to work, or
>> you can head over to www.jonathankay.com or www.messengergeek.com to find me. Please feel
>> free to drop me a line and say hello, I'd love to hear from you.
>>
>> I was hoping to have some sort of alternative to the newsgroup by this time, but there
>> have only been a few weeks since the announcement of the closure of the groups. The "new
>> home" for Messenger support will be the Windows Live Solution Center
>> (http://windowslivehelp.com/forums.aspx?productid=2), so I will be moving there for the
>> time being.
>>
>> Finally, I'd like to thank those who supported and believed in me all these years
>> including Sherry Irwin, Corey Gouker, Dominic Hopton, Mark Salloway, Jonathan Maltz, Tony
>> Hynes, Jeri La May, Erwin Lips, John Furda, Jeff Houston, Cyril Paciullo, Stephen Boots,
>> Winston, Robear Dyer, any of the other former and present MVPs I've missed, Menno, Mark
>> Vos, and many, many others.
>>
>> Thanks for everything and see you on the flip side.
>>
>> Farewell,
>> --
>> Jonathan Kay
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
>> MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
>> MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
>> Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
>> (c) 2010 Jonathan Kay
>> Last day to go!
>> --
>>
>>
>>

From: patndoris on 2 Jun 2010 19:20
Jonathan -

You have always been an inspiration to me and your posts have been
invaluable as a source of information. Your work here has been amazing!

Doris


From: Jonathan Kay [MVP] on 2 Jun 2010 23:34
Thanks Doris,

Your comment here and the others really do help make it worthwhile.

I do wonder why this is still working though - perhaps they just forgot the Messenger groups
existed.

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Jonathan Kay
Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger
MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger
MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com
Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com
(c) 2010 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation
Can't keep a good dog down
--

"patndoris" <patndoris(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Jonathan -
>
> You have always been an inspiration to me and your posts have been
> invaluable as a source of information. Your work here has been amazing!
>
> Doris
>
>

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