From: SiamLover on 3 Jun 2010 14:29 Thanks Jonathan, For all your help long time ago. Started with port-forwarding stuff till badly working Upnp modems. I will always remember the good time on this NG. heian
From: Moldy Cheese on 4 Jun 2010 08:38 "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote: > Greetings, > > On this eve of the end of these newsgroups, I thought I would do some reflection on the > newsgroups, myself and Messenger. > > The first Messenger group was microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger which was intended for > Windows Messenger in Windows XP (which at the time was the same as MSN Messenger). When I > arrived in the group in 2001, the only one monitoring the posts was then NetMeeting MVP Brian > Sullivan. I quickly realized I was able to answer plenty of the questions asked and moved > in. A few years later Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger were split into separate products > and a microsoft.public.msn.messenger was created for that new version of Messenger. Later on > of course, MSN Messenger was changed to Windows Live Messenger and the last and final > newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger was born. > > Unfortunately as the years have progressed, the newsgroups have had less and less exposure > and have all but been absent from Microsoft's official support web pages. As a result, > traffic has been slow compared to what it used to be, but still steady for the past year or > so. > > For those who don't know, I have been a Microsoft MVP since 1998 and a Messenger MVP since > 2001. Interestingly, up until a year ago, I had a perfect newsgroup record - that is, never > missing a day of posts, including weekends, holidays and small surgeries. As Microsoft's > Netscan service has been shut down for some time and Google and other web services haven't > processed the groups from the beginning, an exact post total isn't available, but according > to my Sent Items, I have posted around 50,000 posts in my 9 year messenger newsgroup career. > > As for Messenger itself, the product remains the top instant messaging client statistically, > but some recent decisions both in the latest iteration of the 2009 client and upcoming 2010 > client have saddened me and my impression of the product. Frankly Messenger has such > potential to be an amazing, indispensable, collaborative communication tool for work, > education and recreation. I do hope it reaches its true potential someday. > > Although I do wish that Microsoft would continue to delight us with their own ideas, they > really do need to listen to the feedback of their public and Messenger community. This is an > area that really needs improvement, as situations such as the recent removal of Webcam really > shows that Microsoft doesn't grasp how their users actually use their product. Additionally, > there are plenty of features within the product that are in dire need of updating, from > message logging/history to the emoticon picker. > > As the full end of the Microsoft newsgroups draws nearer in the coming months (the smaller > groups like this one close sooner), it really is the end of an era for me. As I first > started frequenting the groups when I was 14 (now 27, almost 28), losing the groups is like > losing an old friend. They will be missed. > > So, anyone reading this, I bid you goodbye and wish you all the best. If you need to contact > me directly, my e-mail address attached to these posts should continue to work, or you can > head over to www.jonathankay.com or www.messengergeek.com to find me. Please feel free to > drop me a line and say hello, I'd love to hear from you. > > I was hoping to have some sort of alternative to the newsgroup by this time, but there have > only been a few weeks since the announcement of the closure of the groups. The "new home" > for Messenger support will be the Windows Live Solution Center > (http://windowslivehelp.com/forums.aspx?productid=2), so I will be moving there for the time > being. > > Finally, I'd like to thank those who supported and believed in me all these years including > Sherry Irwin, Corey Gouker, Dominic Hopton, Mark Salloway, Jonathan Maltz, Tony Hynes, Jeri > La May, Erwin Lips, John Furda, Jeff Houston, Cyril Paciullo, Stephen Boots, Winston, Robear > Dyer, any of the other former and present MVPs I've missed, Menno, Mark Vos, and many, many > others. > > Thanks for everything and see you on the flip side. > > Farewell, > -- > Jonathan Kay > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger > MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger > MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com > Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com > (c) 2010 Jonathan Kay > Last day to go! > -- > The group is gone now from msnews.microsoft.com, but Astraweb still has it.
From: Jonathan Kay [MVP] on 6 Jun 2010 03:24 Still works here, assuming this goes through... -- Jonathan Kay Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com (c) 2010 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation Into the abyss? -- "Moldy Cheese" <Moldy(a)Cheese.Yummy> wrote in message news:4C08F3CD.EB614461(a)Cheese.Yummy... > The group is gone now from msnews.microsoft.com, but Astraweb still has it. >
From: ...winston on 10 Jun 2010 02:39 :) -- ...winston ms-mvp mail "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" <msnewsreplies(a)jonathankay.com> wrote in message news:ur4iIlUBLHA.420(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Still works here, assuming this goes through... > > -- > Jonathan Kay > Microsoft MVP - Windows Live Messenger > MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger > MessengerGeek Blog: http://www.messengergeek.com > Messenger Resources: http://messenger.jonathankay.com > (c) 2010 Jonathan Kay - If redistributing, you must include this signature or citation > Into the abyss?
From: sean nathan bean on 6 Jul 2010 20:11 On 5/31/2010 8:03 PM, Jonathan Kay [MVP] wrote: > Greetings, > > On this eve of the end of these newsgroups, I thought I would do some reflection on the > newsgroups, myself and Messenger. > > The first Messenger group was microsoft.public.windowsxp.messenger which was intended for > Windows Messenger in Windows XP (which at the time was the same as MSN Messenger). When I > arrived in the group in 2001, the only one monitoring the posts was then NetMeeting MVP Brian > Sullivan. I quickly realized I was able to answer plenty of the questions asked and moved > in. A few years later Windows Messenger and MSN Messenger were split into separate products > and a microsoft.public.msn.messenger was created for that new version of Messenger. Later on > of course, MSN Messenger was changed to Windows Live Messenger and the last and final > newsgroup microsoft.public.windows.live.messenger was born. > > Unfortunately as the years have progressed, the newsgroups have had less and less exposure > and have all but been absent from Microsoft's official support web pages. As a result, > traffic has been slow compared to what it used to be, but still steady for the past year or > so. > > For those who don't know, I have been a Microsoft MVP since 1998 and a Messenger MVP since > 2001. Interestingly, up until a year ago, I had a perfect newsgroup record - that is, never > missing a day of posts, including weekends, holidays and small surgeries. As Microsoft's > Netscan service has been shut down for some time and Google and other web services haven't > processed the groups from the beginning, an exact post total isn't available, but according > to my Sent Items, I have posted around 50,000 posts in my 9 year messenger newsgroup career. > > As for Messenger itself, the product remains the top instant messaging client statistically, > but some recent decisions both in the latest iteration of the 2009 client and upcoming 2010 > client have saddened me and my impression of the product. Frankly Messenger has such > potential to be an amazing, indispensable, collaborative communication tool for work, > education and recreation. I do hope it reaches its true potential someday. > > Although I do wish that Microsoft would continue to delight us with their own ideas, they > really do need to listen to the feedback of their public and Messenger community. This is an > area that really needs improvement, as situations such as the recent removal of Webcam really > shows that Microsoft doesn't grasp how their users actually use their product. Additionally, > there are plenty of features within the product that are in dire need of updating, from > message logging/history to the emoticon picker. > > As the full end of the Microsoft newsgroups draws nearer in the coming months (the smaller > groups like this one close sooner), it really is the end of an era for me. As I first > started frequenting the groups when I was 14 (now 27, almost 28), losing the groups is like > losing an old friend. They will be missed. > > So, anyone reading this, I bid you goodbye and wish you all the best. If you need to contact > me directly, my e-mail address attached to these posts should continue to work, or you can > head over to www.jonathankay.com or www.messengergeek.com to find me. Please feel free to > drop me a line and say hello, I'd love to hear from you. > > I was hoping to have some sort of alternative to the newsgroup by this time, but there have > only been a few weeks since the announcement of the closure of the groups. The "new home" > for Messenger support will be the Windows Live Solution Center > (http://windowslivehelp.com/forums.aspx?productid=2), so I will be moving there for the time > being. > > Finally, I'd like to thank those who supported and believed in me all these years including > Sherry Irwin, Corey Gouker, Dominic Hopton, Mark Salloway, Jonathan Maltz, Tony Hynes, Jeri > La May, Erwin Lips, John Furda, Jeff Houston, Cyril Paciullo, Stephen Boots, Winston, Robear > Dyer, any of the other former and present MVPs I've missed, Menno, Mark Vos, and many, many > others. > > Thanks for everything and see you on the flip side. > > Farewell, i have been an infrequent user, but whenever i have been in need you have always been there to help... it has been tremendously appreciated many thanks... Godspeed on your new journeys in life... sean -- We all time-share the same atoms. ~ Lily Tomlin's Trudy the Bag Lady ** taglines brought to you by tagzilla 0.066.2
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