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From: Peter Foldes on 9 Jan 2010 18:37 Unknown Ignore this Steve. He is an ignoramus. -- Peter Please Reply to Newsgroup for the benefit of others Requests for assistance by email can not and will not be acknowledged. "Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message news:%23x%23SsJKkKHA.3792(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
From: Daave on 9 Jan 2010 18:58 Steve Hayes wrote: > On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:28:46 -0500, "David H. Lipman" > <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote: >> You don't. There is no need to clean the Registry. It is a myth to >> sell snake oil. Very often these so-called Registry Cleaners are >> malware. > So it's OK for the registry to grow and grow, with redundant and > outdated entries? It depends upon the operating system. For a system like Windows XP, the answer is yes. Nobody had ever offered convincing evidence that these outdated entries slow down performance.
From: thanatoid on 9 Jan 2010 20:01 "Peter Foldes" <okf22(a)hotmail.com> wrote in news:eZ2t3QYkKHA.2164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl: >> What are you talking about? I am not going to read 50 >> lines of text I have already read previously just to find >> out. > > And there you go. You said it. One reason to Top post so as > others do not have to re-read all 50 chapters over and over > as you said above. And have NO clue whWTF the topfeeder is mumbling about. > Unfortunately bottom posters and almost > all of them do not know what a snipping tool is and as such > everything gets reprinted over and over. I /strongly/ suggest you look in your yellow pages for the nearest Mental Health Clinic. And perhaps a remedial English class at a nearby community college while you're at it. WWAI, /what/ IS a "snipping tool"?
From: Daave on 10 Jan 2010 09:53 Steve Hayes wrote: > On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 18:58:53 -0500, "Daave" <daave(a)example.com> wrote: > >> Steve Hayes wrote: >>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:28:46 -0500, "David H. Lipman" >>> <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote: >> >>>> You don't. There is no need to clean the Registry. It is a myth >>>> to sell snake oil. Very often these so-called Registry Cleaners >>>> are malware. >> >>> So it's OK for the registry to grow and grow, with redundant and >>> outdated entries? >> >> It depends upon the operating system. >> >> For a system like Windows XP, the answer is yes. Nobody had ever >> offered convincing evidence that these outdated entries slow down >> performance. > > Thanks. > > I thoguht that in this ng, unless otherwise stated, that WERE talking > about Windows XP operating system. Good point. The problem is that with earlier operating systems (e.g., Windows 98), registry cleaning actually *did* produce a certain amount of improvement in performance. And many people who have had positive experiences with these registry cleaning utilities had them all those years ago when they ran those OSes, yours truly included. In fact, the utility that I preferred was Jouni Vuorio's RegCleaner 4.3. (This is interesting because the program recommended by Kim Kommando is written by him, too!) But operating systems from XP onward are designed so differently, and seemingly countless orphan entries in the registry interestingly cause no appreciable difference in performance. This is why so many experienced people caution against the use of these programs. There is no noticeable benefit and there is a small chance that significant damage may occur. Yes, although rare, there have been instances reported in these very newsgroups where people have been unable to boot into Windows after running these cleaners! Adding to the confusion is the large number of scams one can find throughout the Internet. Many of these scams are malware disguised in a registry cleaning package. A friend of mine fell for one of these scams about a year ago, panicked, and wound up using his credit card to make himself $50 poorer! For advanced people who always have an up-to-date image or clone of their system hard drive, using the _non-scam_ registry cleaners is not an issue because even if the rare situation of a non-bootable system occurs, they're covered. And some people like to play around and clean house, attempting to rid their registries of as many useless entries (or entries *perceived* of as useless!) as possible. Some of these people (hello, Twayne) will insist that the perceived threat of cleaning a registry is overblown. But this brings us back to Square One: With systems like Windows XP, these leftover registry entries simply do not affect performance in any appreciable way. No one has *ever* offered actual evidence to support this claim. The closest (and it's not close at all!) I have found is anecdotal evidence like the following: > I've never noticed a perfrmance boost on my own machines but on > occasion > I have seen it help in customer's machines. I don't look for it either > as a > rule because it's not my purpose in running such a program. Even then > you > have to be purposely looking for it though, since an A-B comparison > can't be > made. (from a post made by the aforementioned Twayne) Just because someone on some newsgroup says something like "on occasion I have seen it help in customer's machines" doesn't mean this is actual evidence! Human beings are funny creatures and imagination can be a powerful thing. That is why I always look for actual evidence. All one would need to do is design an experiment that *would* allow for an A-B comparison. > And if I reinstall the software, will it just overwrite the old > entries, so that they don't interfere with the new installation? It depends on the software. If the uninstall and/or reinstall instructions are well-written, old entries will be written over. Then again, many times old leftover entries will remain. The point is that these old leftover entries just sit there doing nothing 99.9% of the time, thereby not affecting performance. In certain situations, there might be an issue, but it would be an actual issue like the *inability* to install a newer version of the same program, *not* a general performance issue. And those specific issues can be addressed by either a specific removal tool (Norton and McAfee have these on their sites for download) or by using Regedit. That being said, a program like the one written by Jouni Vuorio can have some benefit in locating *specific* problematic entries quicker. But to expect that just by running it for no reason will improve performance is to be let down because it just won't happen. You might find the following interesting: http://www.whatthetech.com/2007/11/25/do-i-need-a-registry-cleaner/
From: Kenneth J. Harris on 10 Jan 2010 10:15
1. JV16 Power Tools is not freeware 2. I have used it on my computers 3. It does its job well(removing unwanted registry entries, etc.) 4. Does it make a computer run better? Perhaps a little bit. 5. Does it do any harm? No, as long as you follow the directions for its use. On 1/7/2010 6:41 AM, Jackson wrote: > Kim Komando's tip of the day (07 Jan) has good words for > Microcraft's jv Power tools for cleaning the registry. I > believe it's freeware. > > Has anyone used this program? Do you have any remarks or > recomendations? > Jack from Taxacola (formerly Pensacola), FL |