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From: Jan Panteltje on 18 Apr 2010 06:43 On The Origin Of Oil Somebody probably thought of this before, but here is my idea: How I came to this: Somebody mentioned solar energy was no good. I wanted to reply that without 'Sol' we , the earth, would be just a few degrees above absolute zero, no plants would exists, and then I wanted to parrot what I was taught: 'Oil comes from plants'. That never jived with me in any way.. I did read theories that mentioned it came from inside the earth, but that made no sense to me either. Then one thing was still on my mind, this article about Pluto's atmosphere: http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/14apr_molasses/ It mentions how they hope to get a probe to Pluto 'before the atmosphere there condenses'. Don you would not read this if not solar powered satellites had brought it to you. No sat TV either. The theory: Now imagine earth in it early years, hydrocarbons make up the atmosphere, and temperature is high. As it slowly cools off, the hydrocarbons condense and leave a thick layer on the ground. Summary: For me, when that thought occurred to me, all things just clicked into place. Tar sands, where the hydrocarbons fall on sand, other places where the goo collects in basins with a solid rock bottom, later to be covered by sand, like in deserts.. Oil *everywhere*. Copyright (c) Jan Panteltje 2010-always Nothing of this may be used without written permission of the Author.
From: Bill Sloman on 18 Apr 2010 07:48 On Apr 18, 12:43 pm, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On The Origin Of Oil > > Somebody probably thought of this before, but here is my idea: > > How I came to this: > > Somebody mentioned solar energy was no good. > I wanted to reply that without 'Sol' we , the earth, would be just a few degrees above absolute zero, > no plants would exists, and then I wanted to parrot what I was taught: 'Oil comes from plants'. > > That never jived with me in any way.. > I did read theories that mentioned it came from inside the earth, but that made no sense to me either. > > Then one thing was still on my mind, this article about Pluto's atmosphere: > http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/14apr_molas... > It mentions how they hope to get a probe to Pluto 'before the atmosphere there condenses'. > > Don you would not read this if not solar powered satellites had brought it to you. > No sat TV either. > > The theory: > > Now imagine earth in it early years, hydrocarbons make up the atmosphere, and temperature is high. > As it slowly cools off, the hydrocarbons condense and leave a thick layer on the ground. > > Summary: > > For me, when that thought occurred to me, all things just clicked into place. > Tar sands, where the hydrocarbons fall on sand, other places where the goo collects in > basins with a solid rock bottom, later to be covered by sand, like in deserts.. > Oil *everywhere*. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin There aren't many abiogenic hydrocarbon deposits, and they aren't very big. Pretty much all the oil we find contains biomarkers, indcating that it originally came from plants and algea. -- Bill Sloman, Nijmegen
From: Rich Webb on 18 Apr 2010 07:59 On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:43:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >On The Origin Of Oil > >Somebody probably thought of this before, but here is my idea: > >How I came to this: > >Somebody mentioned solar energy was no good. >I wanted to reply that without 'Sol' we , the earth, would be just a few degrees above absolute zero, >no plants would exists, and then I wanted to parrot what I was taught: 'Oil comes from plants'. > >That never jived with me in any way.. >I did read theories that mentioned it came from inside the earth, but that made no sense to me either. > >Then one thing was still on my mind, this article about Pluto's atmosphere: > http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/14apr_molasses/ >It mentions how they hope to get a probe to Pluto 'before the atmosphere there condenses'. > > >Don you would not read this if not solar powered satellites had brought it to you. >No sat TV either. > > > > >The theory: > >Now imagine earth in it early years, hydrocarbons make up the atmosphere, and temperature is high. >As it slowly cools off, the hydrocarbons condense and leave a thick layer on the ground. > > > >Summary: > >For me, when that thought occurred to me, all things just clicked into place. >Tar sands, where the hydrocarbons fall on sand, other places where the goo collects in >basins with a solid rock bottom, later to be covered by sand, like in deserts.. >Oil *everywhere*. The inner, rocky planets and the outer, gaseous planets condensed out of the proto-planetary disk in quite different conditions. There assuredly are some primordial gasses (or their subsequent compounds) around. However, the salient characteristic of the inner planets is that their gaseous envelopes were removed quite early in the evolution of the solar system, long before there was a stable surface with sand, basins, or deserts. -- Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
From: a7yvm109gf5d1 on 18 Apr 2010 09:22 On Apr 18, 6:59 am, Rich Webb <bbew...(a)mapson.nozirev.ten> wrote: > On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:43:41 GMT, Jan Panteltje > > > > <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >On The Origin Of Oil > > >Somebody probably thought of this before, but here is my idea: > > >How I came to this: > > >Somebody mentioned solar energy was no good. > >I wanted to reply that without 'Sol' we , the earth, would be just a few degrees above absolute zero, > >no plants would exists, and then I wanted to parrot what I was taught: 'Oil comes from plants'. > > >That never jived with me in any way.. > >I did read theories that mentioned it came from inside the earth, but that made no sense to me either. > > >Then one thing was still on my mind, this article about Pluto's atmosphere: > >http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/14apr_molas... > >It mentions how they hope to get a probe to Pluto 'before the atmosphere there condenses'. > > >Don you would not read this if not solar powered satellites had brought it to you. > >No sat TV either. > > >The theory: > > >Now imagine earth in it early years, hydrocarbons make up the atmosphere, and temperature is high. > >As it slowly cools off, the hydrocarbons condense and leave a thick layer on the ground. > > >Summary: > > >For me, when that thought occurred to me, all things just clicked into place. > >Tar sands, where the hydrocarbons fall on sand, other places where the goo collects in > >basins with a solid rock bottom, later to be covered by sand, like in deserts.. > >Oil *everywhere*. > > The inner, rocky planets and the outer, gaseous planets condensed out of > the proto-planetary disk in quite different conditions. There assuredly > are some primordial gasses (or their subsequent compounds) around. > However, the salient characteristic of the inner planets is that their > gaseous envelopes were removed quite early in the evolution of the solar > system, long before there was a stable surface with sand, basins, or > deserts. > > -- > Rich Webb Norfolk, VA Yeah, but it doesn't "jive" with him, man!
From: Jan Panteltje on 18 Apr 2010 13:04
>> However, the salient characteristic of the inner planets is that their >> gaseous envelopes were removed quite early in the evolution of the solar >> system, long before there was a stable surface with sand, basins, or >> deserts. >> >> -- >> Rich Webb � � Norfolk, VA > >Yeah, but it doesn't "jive" with him, man! Because it is pure speculation, brought here as if it is fact. Very little is known about that, and what is known does not confirm this. An other stupid simulation perhaps, like the global over heaters, the ones that block air traffic (do you believe that, they did not even measure anything, just ran a simulation, and now bankrupt all airlines, the airlines did some test flights and found no volcanic ash and no damage... Stupid simulations are no good. We need real data and clear thinking. That rules out multitudes For sure Putin & The Oily Companies would like people to think the stuff is rare. Yes there is a finite supply, but it is not rare. Club of Rome, Oil peak, etc etc. all for the money, no science. Do not eat whale meat, save humanity., Not a chance, a species so stupid will<--- go dinosaurs way, hehe LOL grin Have fun > |