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From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 3 Jun 2010 14:50 *This is a edited repost of an earlier Microsoft message. (No this is not a joke) - Russ Grover MVP >>>>>>>>>>> Reminder Newsgroups EOL <<<<<<<<<<<<<< What is Happening? This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. Why? As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology and discontinue support for newsgroups. In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the Microsoft NNTP Bridge http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ Another "Non Microsoft" support NNTP Bridge can be found here MS Web-Forums via an open source NNTP newsserver (bridge). http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/ Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach, starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more active ones throughout the course of the next six months. Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? Microsoft has a large selection of forums, many of which cover either the same or closely related technologies to the ones found in the newsgroups. The forums have seen amazing growth and are an excellent place to continue the discussion. For SBS related questions we recommend that you start with Public Forum http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/smallbusinessserver/threads Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Public Forums, please go to http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx Who Should I Contact with any Questions? Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to NNTP(a)microsoft.com ------------------------------ Russ Grover -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz Question or Second Opinion - www.PersonalITConsultant.com BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.BPOSMadeEasy.com
From: Duncan McC on 3 Jun 2010 20:21 That, and also Microsoft don't actually *have* an (up-to-date) nntp server! :) ie Exchange Server 2007/10 does not support nntp. Now if they want to keep their nntp services on up-to-date technology, they could quite easily run a Linux distro :) So the other reason (it seems to me) is that Microsoft can't actually do it! Also seems to me that they see no future in nntp (and I think that's quite probably true). -- Duncan. In article <12E5D498-9D17-4C0F-94B8-84C474F3C394(a)microsoft.com>, russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz says... > > *This is a edited repost of an earlier Microsoft message. > (No this is not a joke) - Russ Grover MVP > > >>>>>>>>>>> Reminder Newsgroups EOL <<<<<<<<<<<<<< > > What is Happening? > This message is to inform you that Microsoft will soon begin discontinuing > newsgroups and transitioning users to Microsoft forums. > > Why? > As you may know, newsgroups have existed for many years now; however, the > traffic in the Microsoft newsgroups has been steadily decreasing for the > past several years while customers and participants are increasingly finding > solutions in the forums on Microsoft properties and third party sites. This > move will unify the customer experience, centralize content, make it easier > for active contributors to retain their influence, mitigate redundancies and > make the content easier to find by customers and search engines through > improved indexing. Additionally, forums offer a better user and spam > management platform that will improve customer satisfaction by encouraging a > healthy discussion in a clean community space. To this end, Microsoft will > begin to progressively shift available resources to the forums technology > and discontinue support for newsgroups. > > In addition to offering a compelling online browser experience, for those > users who prefer to use an NNTP (newsgroup) reader to participate in the > newsgroups community, we have developed a solution called the NNTP Bridge > which allows a user to connect a variety of supported NNTP readers to the > forums they would like to participate in and continue having the NTTP reader > functionality. You can find instructions on how to download and set up the > > Microsoft NNTP Bridge > http://connect.microsoft.com/MicrosoftForums/ > > Another "Non Microsoft" support NNTP Bridge can be found here > MS Web-Forums via an open source NNTP newsserver (bridge). > http://communitybridge.codeplex.com/ > > Which Newsgroups Are Affected by this Shutdown? > All public newsgroups will eventually be closed between June 1, 2010 and > October 1, 2010. Microsoft will be closing newsgroups in a phased approach, > starting with the least active newsgroups and moving eventually to more > active ones throughout the course of the next six months. > > Where Should I go with the Closure of this Newsgroup? > Microsoft has a large selection of forums, many of which cover either the > same or closely related technologies to the ones found in the newsgroups. > The forums have seen amazing growth and are an excellent place to continue > the discussion. > > For SBS related questions we recommend that you start with Public Forum > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/smallbusinessserver/threads > > Should you want to visit the other Microsoft Public Forums, please go to > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/forums/default.mspx > > Who Should I Contact with any Questions? > Send any questions about the process, recommended forums and timing to > NNTP(a)microsoft.com > > ------------------------------ > Russ Grover
From: Leythos on 3 Jun 2010 22:12 In article <MPG.26730e2f3d595e47989b7b(a)news.microsoft.com>, hard(a)work.ok says... > Also seems to me that they see no future in nntp (and I think that's > quite probably true). > MS wants to control ALL aspects of the communications, and I'm betting they will be pushing MS Ad's on the website sooner than later, and they also get to block/kick users and messages that they don't like, where they can't do that in Usenet, at least not that replicates across the public Usenet services. -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 4 Jun 2010 01:02 Leythos There is an Ad if you are not logged in if you are logged in there isn't However I'm sure we will see Ads in-between the lines at some point :( But Using the NNTP Bridge you won't see the ads if any and you can use your favorite NNTP Readier just like before. This Change IMO is a result of two things NNTP Servers no long supported from a Server Stand point and control over content, there have been a lot of lawsuits on content lately. The recent litigations on Content and control of content is hitting the FAN Big time. (All companies are pulling the reigns, big time) On Deleting things. I've seen things in the Private (Partner) group that I though for sure would be deleted. (Because they slam Microsoft) However the only thing I've seen deleted is the SPAM, Which IMO is a good thing.. Less Spam IMO is a good thing Russ -- Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com "Leythos" <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote in message news:MPG.26722b2653321e0598a3b3(a)us.news.astraweb.com... > In article <MPG.26730e2f3d595e47989b7b(a)news.microsoft.com>, hard(a)work.ok > says... >> Also seems to me that they see no future in nntp (and I think that's >> quite probably true). >> > > MS wants to control ALL aspects of the communications, and I'm betting > they will be pushing MS Ad's on the website sooner than later, and they > also get to block/kick users and messages that they don't like, where > they can't do that in Usenet, at least not that replicates across the > public Usenet services. > > -- > You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little > voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. > Trust yourself. > spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Brian Cryer on 4 Jun 2010 05:33
"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" <russ(a)REMOVETHIS.sbits.biz> wrote in message news:12E5D498-9D17-4C0F-94B8-84C474F3C394(a)microsoft.com... > *This is a edited repost of an earlier Microsoft message. > (No this is not a joke) - Russ Grover MVP Shame. I've been playing with the NNTP bridge and at first glance its not bad (not tried posting via it yet), but I've not yet found the equivalent of this group? Any recommendations? -- Brian Cryer http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian |