Resolving External IP address Internally
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From: "Gregg Hill" greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot on 6 May 2010 11:46 Regarding your "top-posting" tag line, I find it more annoying to read a conversation, then scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, then scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, then scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, then scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, and on and on. It is FAR easier for me to read a reply that is at the top, as I already have in memory the initial post and subsequent replies. That should set off the Usenet police! Gregg Hill "Brian Cryer" <not.here(a)localhost> wrote in message news:#dgmPGT7KHA.5808(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> wrote > in message news:eziLsAT7KHA.2292(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> Brian, >> >> You stated that, "If you use an explicit IP address then the same address >> won't work both internally and externally." That is because his router is >> not set up for loopback or won't do loopback at all. >> >> Your workaround to have a DNS name mapped differently internally than >> externally is precisely a router issue. >> >> My WatchGuard firewall does loopback, and I can hit my mail server from >> inside or outside using the public FQDN or its public IP address, with >> zero internal DNS modifications. >> >> If he has a router with loopback working, he will be able to use >> http://173.181.14.188/Xcelerator/Mobile/whatever both externally and >> internally, and if he sets up public DNS pointing to that address, it >> will work the same inside and outside without internal DNS changes. >> >> Gregg Hill > > I wish my router supported that as it would save me a lot of time. > Certainly if the OP's router supports it then I agree that that would be > an easy fix for him. > -- > Brian Cryer > www.cryer.co.uk/brian > > A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. > Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? >
From: James Hurrell "j_a_hurrell at hotmail on 6 May 2010 11:53 Certainly should! On 06/05/2010 16:46, Gregg Hill wrote: > Regarding your "top-posting" tag line, I find it more annoying to read a > conversation, then scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, then > scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, then scroll to the bottom > to read the next comment, then scroll to the bottom to read the next > comment, and on and on. It is FAR easier for me to read a reply that is > at the top, as I already have in memory the initial post and subsequent > replies. > > That should set off the Usenet police! > > Gregg Hill Certainly should!
From: "Gregg Hill" greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot on 6 May 2010 11:56 "James Hurrell" <"j_a_hurrell at hotmail com"> wrote in message news:epQ$LRT7KHA.1424(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Certainly should! > > On 06/05/2010 16:46, Gregg Hill wrote: >> Regarding your "top-posting" tag line, I find it more annoying to read a >> conversation, then scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, then >> scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, then scroll to the bottom >> to read the next comment, then scroll to the bottom to read the next >> comment, and on and on. It is FAR easier for me to read a reply that is >> at the top, as I already have in memory the initial post and subsequent >> replies. >> >> That should set off the Usenet police! >> >> Gregg Hill > > Certainly should! Now THAT was funny! You clever boy! Gregg Hill
From: "Gregg Hill" greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot on 6 May 2010 12:03 "James Hurrell" <"j_a_hurrell at hotmail com"> wrote in message news:epQ$LRT7KHA.1424(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > Certainly should! > > On 06/05/2010 16:46, Gregg Hill wrote: >> Regarding your "top-posting" tag line, I find it more annoying to read a >> conversation, then scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, then >> scroll to the bottom to read the next comment, then scroll to the bottom >> to read the next comment, then scroll to the bottom to read the next >> comment, and on and on. It is FAR easier for me to read a reply that is >> at the top, as I already have in memory the initial post and subsequent >> replies. >> >> That should set off the Usenet police! >> >> Gregg Hill > > Certainly should! I also have Outlook 2007 set to have mail in the Inbox sorted with newest at the top. I feel like such a criminal! Gregg
From: Joe on 6 May 2010 13:07 On 06/05/10 16:33, Brian Cryer wrote: > "Gregg Hill" <greggmhill at please do not spam me at yahoo dot com> > wrote in message news:eziLsAT7KHA.2292(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> My WatchGuard firewall does loopback, and I can hit my mail server >> from inside or outside using the public FQDN or its public IP address, >> with zero internal DNS modifications. >> >> If he has a router with loopback working, he will be able to use >> http://173.181.14.188/Xcelerator/Mobile/whatever both externally and >> internally, and if he sets up public DNS pointing to that address, it >> will work the same inside and outside without internal DNS changes. >> >> Gregg Hill > > I wish my router supported that as it would save me a lot of time. > Certainly if the OP's router supports it then I agree that that would be > an easy fix for him. It's an arbitrary decision on the part of the manufacturer, and it's not normally configurable. I currently have a Vigor 2800 which allows it, my previous routers didn't. I've never yet seen any router documentation about it, and I can't see any way to find out whether it works other than by trying it or knowing someone who already has. It may even differ in different firmware versions. Unfortunately, there's a wide range of minor details about hardware which never find their way into brochures or reviews. There's another thread around at the moment about router EDNS handling, and VPN tunnels are another favourite topic. -- Joe
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