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From: Amos Sobel on 20 Sep 2009 00:50
Dear Tobias, Cliff and SteveB

The problem was solved as I did expect: Nothing was wrong with the hardware,
it was all SBS 2008. I did install Windows Search service, it did create a
250,000 item index and my server flies like a bird. A month ago, I did
install the indexing service which was useless so I did uninstall it. I still
do not understand the difference berween the 3 indexing types available on
SBS 2008.

It does still remains to be seen if the system will deteriorate with time.

Amos Sobel

"Amos Sobel" wrote:

> Dear Tobbias
>
> I did start to proceed according to your instructions. Here is a diary of
> actions and error messages. Your comments will be appreciated.
>
>
>
> 12/09/2009 server restart sharepoint stopped
>
> 14/09/2009
>
> netsh int tcp set global chimney=disabled
> netsh int tcp set global rss=disabled
>
> 16/09/2009
>
> Server become slow.
> Typically the following occures:
> Open network view of server
> Check properies of Share AMOS, take a few minutes to open
> Check security, a string of numbers apper instead of user Amos for a few
> minutes.
>
> From the Event Viewer:
> System
>
> The processing of Group Policy failed. Windows attempted to read the file
> \\equip8.local\sysvol\equip8.local\Policies\{6AC1786C-016F-11D2-945F-00C04fB984F9}\gpt.ini
> from a domain controller and was not successful. Group Policy settings may
> not be applied until this event is resolved. This issue may be transient and
> could be caused by one or more of the following:
> a) Name Resolution/Network Connectivity to the current domain controller.
> b) File Replication Service Latency (a file created on another domain
> controller has not replicated to the current domain controller).
> c) The Distributed File System (DFS) client has been disabled.
>
>
> The Group Policy settings for the computer were processed successfully.
> There were no changes detected since the last successful processing of Group
> Policy.
>
>
> Microsoft windows- Small buisness.
>
> The User accounts cannot be added into GroupPolicy 'AllSBSUsers'. Please
> Verify the GroupPolicy 'AllSBSUsers' exists.
>
>
> 17/09/2009 After restart and Sharepoint turn on
>
> From the Event Viewer:
>
> Application
>
> The update cannot be started because the content sources cannot be accessed.
> Fix the errors and try the update again.
>
> Context: Application 'Search', Catalog 'index file on the search server
> Search'
>
> System
>
> A RADIUS message was received from the invalid RADIUS client IP address
> 10.0.0.100.
>
> Amos Sobel
>
> "Tobias Redelberger [MVP - SBS]" wrote:
>
> > Hi Amos,
> >
> > >> > I did forget to say that all 2008 software are up to date and that
> > >> > originally the server was SBS2000 with no such problems.
> > >>
> > >> how about BIOS, Firmware, drivers? Are they also up-to-date and
> > >> supported/certified under Windows Server 2008 64-bit?
> > > The BIOS is part of the SuperMicro H8DME-2 board which is specified as
> > > Windows 2008 64 bit complient. Most drivers are Microsoft original. I did
> > > change the ethernet driver to Nvidia 2008 complient driver because the
> > > original Microsoft did fail.
> >
> > So again: BIOS, FIRMWARE and DRIVERS of all your (self-tested)
> > hardware-components are all UP-TO-DATE..?
> >
> > Did you implement (-> disable the Chimney and RSS feature) the following:
> >
> > Information about the TCP Chimney Offload, Receive Side Scaling, and Network
> > Direct Memory Access features in Windows Server 2008
> > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/951037/en-us
> > [..]
> > netsh int tcp show global
> >
> > netsh int tcp set global chimney=disabled
> > netsh int tcp set global rss=disabled
> > [..]
> >
> >
> > >> >> I have been investigating this problem for a while. The only
> > >> >> unconvincing
> > >> >> result says it is a matter of Opportunisting Locking. My feeling is
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> active directory is very slow but I could not find the reason.
> > >>
> > >> Where did you read that about "Opportunisting Locking" and "active
> > >> directory"?
> > > I did take the idea of oportunistic Locking from:
> > > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverPN/thread/f2f5e907-9356-43d3-874f-95a249df3d37
> >
> > so, did you read this too?
> >
> > "As of now there is no file lock / opslock which i would suspect, opslock is
> > a feature which is only specific when accesisng file over a network, then
> > file operations are converted into network requests. so please confirm and
> > tweak the opslock only if your application is dealing with file related
> > activity." Source:
> > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/winserverPN/thread/f2f5e907-9356-43d3-874f-95a249df3d37
> >
> > That's why i asked about "Opportunisting Locking" AND "active directory",
> > because one is file/share (which use SMB1) related, the other is a database
> > connection (Active Directory is a LDAP-Database where data is pulled from
> > LDAP-clients via LDAP-Connections on TCP-Port 389 - s. e.g.
> > http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc961766.aspx)
> >
> >
> > >> Can you send us a "ipconfig /all" from your SBS and some Clients/Server?
> > > Ipconfig /all gives a very long result. Please give me your address and I
> > > will mail it to you.
> >
> > Got it:
> >
> > > Server
> > >
> > > Windows IP Configuration
> > >
> > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : HFASVR8
> > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : equip8.local
> > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : equip8.local
> > >
> > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> > >
> > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : NVIDIA nForce 10/100/1000 Mbps
> > > Ethernet
> > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-30-48-79-8E-76
> > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
> > > fe80::c924:2fff:a36f:7943%10(Preferred)
> > > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.6(Preferred)
> > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.254
> > > DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 251670600
> > > DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
> > > 00-01-00-01-11-E7-56-83-00-30-48-79-8E-76
> > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c924:2fff:a36f:7943%10
> > > 10.0.0.6
> > > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.6
> > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> > >
> > >
> > > Vista Workstation:
> > >
> > >
> > > Windows IP Configuration
> > >
> > > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Minuet100
> > > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : equip8.local
> > > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
> > > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
> > > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : equip8.local
> > >
> > > Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
> > >
> > > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
> > > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8168C(P)/8111C(P) Family
> > > PCI-E GBE NIC
> > > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-1F-C6-52-80-B2
> > > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
> > > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
> > > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
> > > fe80::b95f:a4ae:c4d0:da8d%10(Preferred)
> > > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . :
> > > fe80::c924:2fff:a36f:7950%10(Preferred)
> > > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.100(Preferred)
> > > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
> > > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.254
> > > DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 167780294
> > > DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . :
> > > 00-01-00-01-10-E6-43-2C-00-1F-C6-52-80-B2
> > > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : fe80::c924:2fff:a36f:7943%10
> > > 10.0.0.6
> > > Primary WINS Server . . . . . . . : 10.0.0.6
> > > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
> >
> > Looks good.
> >
> >
> > But did you test and analyse your combination:
> >
> > NVIDIA NIC --- Your NetworkSwitch --- Realtek NIC
> >
> > The truth behind is, that in the past there was some problems with e.g
> > Realtek networkcards (NIC) connected to 3com switches (other combination may
> > also have some problemes with each other).
> >
> > Remark: Not everything is working with everything even if the specification
> > says so.
> >
> >
> > How's about the quality of your network equipment (cables, conenctors and so
> > on)? Did you test it with professional network testing equipment?
> >
> >
> > >> Did you check the free space on all your partition (>=40% free space for
> > >> best performance on NTFS files systems) and defraged it?
> > > I have 5 drives in 2 partitions. All drives have more than 50% free space.
> >
> > Fine.
> >
> > Defraged it?
> >
> >
> > >> >> My server consist of a SuperMicro mainboard using 2x 2Ghz Dual
> > >> >> Opteron,
> > >> >> NVIDIA N Force Ethernet and LSI MegaRaid SAS 8208 using 4x 512GB
> > >> >> SATA
> > >> >> disks
> > >> >> in RAID1.
> > >>
> > >> Sound ok for your scenario (a RAID Controller has better performance if
> > >> it
> > >> can use BBU Cache >=128MB) , but i prefer tested Server from vendors like
> > >> HP, IBM, Fujitsu, Dell and so on..
> > >
> > > My RAID controller has no Cache.
> >
> > Cache (with Battery Backup Unit - BBU) is a performance enabler (up to
> > double the throughput)
> >
> >
> > > A commercial Server of the same capacity will cost 4 times as my server.
> >
> > ... but lowers the problems 2 times.. ;)
> >
> >
> >
> > >> What is your Security-Software solution and how is it configured?
> > > Right now, I did uninstall my McAfee AntiVirus from the server in an
> > > attempt
> > > to solve the speed problems. The McAfee still runs on all workstations.
> >
> > Did you DISABLE the McAfee AntiVirus Network-Scan Feature on your Clients
> > (and later on your Server too)?
> >
> >
> > > I did also disable SharePoint Services because it did create some error
> > > messages.
> >
> > Can you please share this errors massages as detailed and accurate as
> > posssible?
> >
> >
> > >> Are there any warnings, errors or other information in the eventlogs you
> > >> can
> > >> share?
> > > Here is the mos significant one:
> > >
> > > The User accounts cannot be added into GroupPolicy 'AllSBSUsers'. Please
> > > Verify the GroupPolicy 'AllSBSUsers' exists.
> >
> > Where did you come from? Did you migrate (from SBS 2000 over Windows Server
> > 2003) to SBS 2008 or was it a plain vanilla install?
> >
> > When migrating, then how? Any errors during migration? Did you cleaned up
> > your Active Directory (orphaned database objects and replication) before
> > migrating to SBS 2008?
> >
> >
> > Can you verify your Group Policy Objects ("SBS 2008 uses 2 default policies
> > along with 9 'SBS specific' policies") with this screenshoot:
> >
> > http://blogs.technet.com/sbs/archive/2009/04/16/how-to-backup-restore-and-re-link-group-policies-in-sbs-2008.aspx
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tobias Redelberger
> > StarNET Services (HomeOffice)
> > Schoenbornstr. 57
> > D-97440 Werneck
> > Tel: +49 (9722) 4835
> > Mobil: +49 (163) 84 74 421
> > Email: T.Redelberger(a)starnet-services.net
> > Web: http://www.starnet-services.net
> >
> >
From: Tobias Redelberger [MVP - SBS] on 20 Sep 2009 05:00
Hi Amos,

> The problem was solved as I did expect: Nothing was wrong with the
> hardware,
> it was all SBS 2008. I did install Windows Search service, it did create a
> 250,000 item index and my server flies like a bird. A month ago, I did
> install the indexing service which was useless so I did uninstall it. I
> still
> do not understand the difference berween the 3 indexing types available on
> SBS 2008.
>
> It does still remains to be seen if the system will deteriorate with time.

thanx for sharing your feedback.

I guess, your scenario is too complex for discussing it in this newsgroup.
To analyse your underlying problems deeper, one has to "see" (e.g. via RDP
or teamviewer) your live infrastructure and make there some tests.

--
Tobias Redelberger
StarNET Services (HomeOffice)
Schoenbornstr. 57
D-97440 Werneck
Tel: +49 (9722) 4835
Mobil: +49 (163) 84 74 421
Email: T.Redelberger(a)starnet-services.net
Web: http://www.starnet-services.net


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