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From: Mark Warner on 10 Jan 2010 09:38 mike wrote: > > What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely > extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and ran > on slow computers? What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away? -- Mark Warner MEPIS Linux Registered Linux User #415318 ....lose .inhibitions when replying
From: Craig on 10 Jan 2010 13:15 On 01/10/2010 07:10 AM, Bear Bottoms wrote: > Mark Warner<markwarner1954.inhibitions(a)att.net> wrote in > news:7qu72iFgabU1(a)mid.individual.net: > >> mike wrote: >>> >>> What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely >>> extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and >>> ran on slow computers? >> >> What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away? >> > > When they do so, it would be a good thing. <http://distrowatch.com/> -- -Craig
From: Craig on 10 Jan 2010 17:20 On 01/10/2010 12:38 PM, Bear Bottoms wrote: > Craig<netburgher(a)REMOVEgmail.com> wrote in > news:hid5fb$g3b$1(a)news.eternal-september.org: > >> On 01/10/2010 07:10 AM, Bear Bottoms wrote: >>> Mark Warner<markwarner1954.inhibitions(a)att.net> wrote in >>> news:7qu72iFgabU1(a)mid.individual.net: >>> >>>> mike wrote: >>>>> >>>>> What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely >>>>> extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces >>>>> and ran on slow computers? >>>> >>>> What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away? >>>> >>> >>> When they do so, it would be a good thing. >> >> <http://distrowatch.com/> >> > > I have hardware I want to run...no thanks. Squirm away. -- -Craig
From: mike on 10 Jan 2010 21:16 Mark Warner wrote: > mike wrote: >> >> What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely >> extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and ran >> on slow computers? > > What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away? > It would fail. Just look at what happened with linux. It was killed by the very merits that the geeks prized. A new OS has zero chance of success on the desktop until it is standardized. Somebody with very deep pockets has to take it over. They have to write, update, extend, enforce standards. This is an expensive process with no end. They gotta cause vendors to write hardware drivers. SW developers have to port their code TO ONE STANDARD API. If you have to have six different versions of software and different distribution methods, the system will collapse under it's own weight. The phrase, "compile from source" must be ELIMINATED from the vocabulary. The geeks have to quit saying, "Hey, look what I can do!" and get back to an organized effort with compromise. I'm not suggesting we prevent any high-school kid with a modem releasing an OS distribution. But if they expect to have hardware drivers and software interactivity, they'd need to comply with the standards. Use any window manager you want, just don't expect software to work optimally with anything other than the official standard one. It's a chicken/egg problem. Nobody's gonna invest in sw and drivers support if there's no installed base. And there ain't no installed base because there's insufficient support. And we're ignoring the fact that M$ can instantly DESTROY any partner turned competitor with a sneeze. You gonna risk your lucrative wireless widget business by pissing off M$? It's not rocket surgery. If only business ran the way geeks wanted. Who has pockets deep enough? Google! But they have better sense. When the business model is "free as in beer", you're gonna have a hard time convincing investors that it's a good idea. Google is gonna do something with linux, but it'll be more in line with THEIR business model...the central vacuum system. It has hoses running everywhere, each finely tuned to suck even the tiniest amount of cash from the smallest crevice. The only other alternative is for the EU or maybe the Chinese government to get so pissed off at M$ that they fund an OS development and mandate usage by the government. I'm not optimistic about that either. And it wouldn't be free any more. OS's like linux have their niches...just don't invest in any effort to take them mainstream.
From: George Orwell on 10 Jan 2010 22:54
mike wrote: > Mark Warner wrote: > > mike wrote: > >> > >> What if M$ created an operating system version that was infinitely > >> extensible, had stable driver models, stable low-level interfaces and ran > >> on slow computers? > > > > What if that was created by a community of geeks and given away? > > > > It would fail. > Just look at what happened with linux. > It was killed by the very merits that the geeks prized. If by "killed" you mean owning the server market and gaining share in the business and home markets by leaps and bounds... you have a point. Il mittente di questo messaggio|The sender address of this non corrisponde ad un utente |message is not related to a real reale ma all'indirizzo fittizio|person but to a fake address of an di un sistema anonimizzatore |anonymous system Per maggiori informazioni |For more info https://www.mixmaster.it |