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From: Autymn D. C. on 1 Aug 2010 08:48
On Jul 25, 7:19 am, troll <trolid...(a)go.com> wrote:
> order to promote their own policy agendas.
Agendas isn't a word.
From: Autymn D. C. on 1 Aug 2010 09:03
On Jul 17, 2:24 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> By its' merits. The same as everything else.

its' is still not a word after the hundreds of times you wrote it.
From: Szczepan Bialek on 2 Aug 2010 03:04

"Autymn D. C." <lysdexia(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote
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On Jul 29, 3:44 pm, franklinhu <frankli...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:>
>
>> Szczepan is making an arugment that the aether is made out of
> interstellar dust.

Interstelar medium is "made of" plasma (ions, electrons) and dust.

>>Now, getting to the point of what we want an aether
> to do for us, I think it is of utmost importance that the aether be
> the medium for transmitting light. I would doubt that the interstellar
> medium would be sufficient to account for transmission of light. The
> density of that interstellar medium is extremely low. Given the speed
> of light and how higher density materials transmit waves faster, I
> would expect the aether to be extremely dense. Neither could waves
> propagate well in medium with so few particles to transmit the wave
> by.

>This is cretinose. The wavespeed for woom (sound) is swifter for
thicker media but not the wavespeed for liht. See Snell and Maxwell's
equations.

Equations are for students.

Scientist should measure.

The result are: In the wire the electric waves travel with the speed of
light but the sound waves very,very slower.
In the plasma (ions and electrons - like in the wire) the results are the
same.
S*


From: Androcles on 2 Aug 2010 03:25

"Szczepan Bialek" <sz.bialek(a)wp.pl> wrote in message
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|
| "Autymn D. C." <lysdexia(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote
| news:e903f906-4035-4184-9eea-09972eecd819(a)v6g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
| On Jul 29, 3:44 pm, franklinhu <frankli...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:>
| >
| >> Szczepan is making an arugment that the aether is made out of
| > interstellar dust.
|
| Interstelar medium is "made of" plasma (ions, electrons) and dust.
|
| >>Now, getting to the point of what we want an aether
| > to do for us, I think it is of utmost importance that the aether be
| > the medium for transmitting light. I would doubt that the interstellar
| > medium would be sufficient to account for transmission of light. The
| > density of that interstellar medium is extremely low. Given the speed
| > of light and how higher density materials transmit waves faster, I
| > would expect the aether to be extremely dense. Neither could waves
| > propagate well in medium with so few particles to transmit the wave
| > by.
|
| >This is cretinose. The wavespeed for woom (sound) is swifter for
| thicker media but not the wavespeed for liht. See Snell and Maxwell's
| equations.
|
| Equations are for students.
|
| Scientist should measure.
|
| The result are: In the wire the electric waves travel with the speed of
| light

Bullshit, they are much slower, even in coax.

Open wire transmission lines have the property that the electromagnetic wave
propagating down the line extends into the space surrounding the parallel
wires. These lines have low loss, but also have undesirable characteristics.
They cannot be bent, twisted or otherwise shaped without changing their
characteristic impedance, causing reflection of the signal back toward the
source. They also cannot be run along or attached to anything conductive, as
the extended fields will induce currents in the nearby conductors causing
unwanted radiation and detuning of the line. Coaxial lines solve this
problem by confining the electromagnetic wave to the area inside the cable,
between the center conductor and the shield. The transmission of energy in
the line occurs totally through the dielectric inside the cable between the
conductors. Coaxial lines can therefore be bent and moderately twisted
without negative effects, and they can be strapped to conductive supports
without inducing unwanted currents in them. In radio-frequency applications
up to a few gigahertz, the wave propagates primarily in the transverse
electric magnetic (TEM) mode, which means that the electric and magnetic
fields are both perpendicular to the direction of propagation. However,
above a certain cutoff frequency, transverse electric (TE) and/or transverse
magnetic (TM) modes can also propagate, as they do in a waveguide. It is
usually undesirable to transmit signals above the cutoff frequency, since it
may cause multiple modes with different phase velocities to propagate,
interfering with each other. The outer diameter is roughly inversely
proportional to the cutoff frequency. A propagating surface-wave mode that
does not involve or require the outer shield but only a single central
conductor also exists in coax but this mode is effectively suppressed in
coax of conventional geometry and common impedance. Electric field lines for
this TM mode have a longitudinal component and require line lengths of a
half-wavelength or longer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coaxial_cable





From: Szczepan Bialek on 2 Aug 2010 03:41

"Androcles" <Headmaster(a)Hogwarts.physics_z> wrote
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>
> "Szczepan Bialek" <sz.bialek(a)wp.pl> wrote in message
> news:4c566e0e$0$19176$65785112(a)news.neostrada.pl...
> |
> | "Autymn D. C." <lysdexia(a)sbcglobal.net> wrote
> | news:e903f906-4035-4184-9eea-09972eecd819(a)v6g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
> | On Jul 29, 3:44 pm, franklinhu <frankli...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:>
> | >
> | >> Szczepan is making an arugment that the aether is made out of
> | > interstellar dust.
> |
> | Interstelar medium is "made of" plasma (ions, electrons) and dust.
> |
> | >>Now, getting to the point of what we want an aether
> | > to do for us, I think it is of utmost importance that the aether be
> | > the medium for transmitting light. I would doubt that the interstellar
> | > medium would be sufficient to account for transmission of light. The
> | > density of that interstellar medium is extremely low. Given the speed
> | > of light and how higher density materials transmit waves faster, I
> | > would expect the aether to be extremely dense. Neither could waves
> | > propagate well in medium with so few particles to transmit the wave
> | > by.
> |
> | >This is cretinose. The wavespeed for woom (sound) is swifter for
> | thicker media but not the wavespeed for liht. See Snell and Maxwell's
> | equations.
> |
> | Equations are for students.
> |
> | Scientist should measure.
> |
> | The result are: In the wire the electric waves travel with the speed of
> | light
>
> Bullshit, they are much slower, even in coax.

In a bare wire was measured by Hertz and many others. In dielectric is a
little slower.
The coax is not a wire and not an insulator.

Sound also travel in a coax.

Do you agree that in the same medium travel different waves?
S*
>


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