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From: spudnik on 24 Jul 2010 15:13 haven't got to the "last sentence before the supplement," but the first footnote shows the problem with Newton's "theory" of emmission. > You have this:http://www.aip.org/history/gap/PDF/michelson.pdf > Null in MMX is obvious. But in 1925 Michelson > detected the Earth rotation. So the exact result of MMX is 0.5 km/s. thus: sorry, Gauss said, the Queen of them, which has been supposed to imply that there was a King, to be physical economy -- at least as important as numbertheory (big chunk of _Cranks_). thus: I like Dudley's books, not particularly _Cranks_, but he misses the boat in the second paragraph, because he emphasizes mere arithmetic *and* the subjects that are not quite *mathematica*, or *quadrivium*, and this is the self-same problem of all primary or "elementary" ed. in math, a sort of glorification of Euclid's encyclopedia, addended to the trivium (or, the three Rs .-) http://www.ams.org/notices/201005/rtx100500608p.pdf thus: maybe, if they stopped listening to alt.deism, they'd start funding you, instead; either way, definitely a New Age soundtrack a.k.a. Muzak TM. > "Listening"?... http://en.wookiepoopya.org/wiki/Synesthesia thus: Hawking's got a new set of fairy tales?... well, he's a part of the Trinity on STreKtheNGeneratioN, so, He can do that! thus: Liebniz's *vis viva* is half of mvv; compare to Galileo's linear ideal, but don't try to disprove his relativity, til you've gotten off of the boat! --les ducs d'oil! http://wlym.com --BP's next bailout of Wall St. and "the City" (of London, gated community & financial district), or the last, if nothing is left of the USA. http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/ http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/ http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/
From: Szczepan Bialek on 25 Jul 2010 13:36 "spudnik" <Space998(a)hotmail.com> wrote news:b05dd010-768d-44dd-91c2-2c5d09e7a947(a)q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > haven't got to the "last sentence before the supplement," but > the first footnote shows the problem with Newton's "theory" > of emmission. > >> You have this:http://www.aip.org/history/gap/PDF/michelson.pdf >> Null in MMX is obvious. But in 1925 Michelson >> detected the Earth rotation. So the exact result of MMX is 0.5 km/s. > > thus: > sorry, Gauss said, the Queen of them, which has > been supposed to imply that there was a King, > to be physical economy -- at least as important > as numbertheory (big chunk of _Cranks_). > > thus: > I like Dudley's books, not particularly _Cranks_, but he misses the > boat > in the second paragraph, because he emphasizes mere arithmetic *and* > the subjects that are not quite *mathematica*, or *quadrivium*, and > this is the self-same problem of all primary or "elementary" ed. in > math, > a sort of glorification of Euclid's encyclopedia, addended to the > trivium (or, > the three Rs .-) http://www.ams.org/notices/201005/rtx100500608p.pdf Math has many tools. one of them are the analitical methods. They are completly useless in each job. But they should be presented to students. > > thus: maybe, if they stopped listening to alt.deism, > they'd start funding you, instead; either way, > definitely a New Age soundtrack a.k.a. Muzak TM. >> "Listening"?... http://en.wookiepoopya.org/wiki/Synesthesia > > thus: Hawking's got a new set of fairy tales?... well, > he's a part of the Trinity on STreKtheNGeneratioN, so, > He can do that! > > thus: Liebniz's *vis viva* is half of mvv; > compare to Galileo's linear ideal, but > don't try to disprove his relativity, > til you've gotten off of the boat! > > --les ducs d'oil! > http://wlym.com > > --BP's next bailout of Wall St. and "the City" > (of London, gated community & financial district), or > the last, if nothing is left of the USA. > http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/ > http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/ > http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/ But what is your opinion on the evidences collected by A.G. Kelly: http://www.worldnpa.org/pdf/ebooks/Kelly%20-%20New%20Theory%20of%20the%20Behavior%20of%20Light.pdf All todays measurements are in agreement with the Stokes aether where the plasma rotate locally with the Sun. S*
From: Vince Morgan on 25 Jul 2010 19:57 "Szczepan Bialek" <sz.bialek(a)wp.pl> wrote in message news:4c4c7619$0$17085$65785112(a)news.neostrada.pl... > > "spudnik" <Space998(a)hotmail.com> wrote > news:b05dd010-768d-44dd-91c2-2c5d09e7a947(a)q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > > haven't got to the "last sentence before the supplement," but > > the first footnote shows the problem with Newton's "theory" > > of emmission. > > > >> You have this:http://www.aip.org/history/gap/PDF/michelson.pdf > >> Null in MMX is obvious. But in 1925 Michelson > >> detected the Earth rotation. So the exact result of MMX is 0.5 km/s. > > > > thus: > > sorry, Gauss said, the Queen of them, which has > > been supposed to imply that there was a King, > > to be physical economy -- at least as important > > as numbertheory (big chunk of _Cranks_). > > > > thus: > > I like Dudley's books, not particularly _Cranks_, but he misses the > > boat > > in the second paragraph, because he emphasizes mere arithmetic *and* > > the subjects that are not quite *mathematica*, or *quadrivium*, and > > this is the self-same problem of all primary or "elementary" ed. in > > math, > > a sort of glorification of Euclid's encyclopedia, addended to the > > trivium (or, > > the three Rs .-) http://www.ams.org/notices/201005/rtx100500608p.pdf > > Math has many tools. one of them are the analitical methods. They are > completly useless in each job. But they should be presented to students. > > > > thus: maybe, if they stopped listening to alt.deism, > > they'd start funding you, instead; either way, > > definitely a New Age soundtrack a.k.a. Muzak TM. > >> "Listening"?... http://en.wookiepoopya.org/wiki/Synesthesia > > > > thus: Hawking's got a new set of fairy tales?... well, > > he's a part of the Trinity on STreKtheNGeneratioN, so, > > He can do that! > > > > thus: Liebniz's *vis viva* is half of mvv; > > compare to Galileo's linear ideal, but > > don't try to disprove his relativity, > > til you've gotten off of the boat! > > > > --les ducs d'oil! > > http://wlym.com > > > > --BP's next bailout of Wall St. and "the City" > > (of London, gated community & financial district), or > > the last, if nothing is left of the USA. > > http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/ > > http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/ > > http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/ > > But what is your opinion on the evidences collected by A.G. Kelly: > http://www.worldnpa.org/pdf/ebooks/Kelly%20-%20New%20Theory%20of%20the%20Behavior%20of%20Light.pdf > > All todays measurements are in agreement with the Stokes aether where the > plasma rotate locally with the Sun. > S* > > Interesting paper Szczepan. I don't quite get "light moves with the earth's gravitational field" yet, but it's certainly very interesting. I did read the later paper where he did rotate the solenoid and that was very informative as well. Regards, Vince
From: Androcles on 25 Jul 2010 20:53 "Vince Morgan" <vinhar(a)TAKEOUToptusnet.com.au> wrote in message news:4c4ccee4$0$25356$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... | | "Szczepan Bialek" <sz.bialek(a)wp.pl> wrote in message | news:4c4c7619$0$17085$65785112(a)news.neostrada.pl... | > | > "spudnik" <Space998(a)hotmail.com> wrote | > news:b05dd010-768d-44dd-91c2-2c5d09e7a947(a)q12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... | > > haven't got to the "last sentence before the supplement," but | > > the first footnote shows the problem with Newton's "theory" | > > of emmission. | > > | > >> You have this:http://www.aip.org/history/gap/PDF/michelson.pdf | > >> Null in MMX is obvious. But in 1925 Michelson | > >> detected the Earth rotation. So the exact result of MMX is 0.5 km/s. | > > | > > thus: | > > sorry, Gauss said, the Queen of them, which has | > > been supposed to imply that there was a King, | > > to be physical economy -- at least as important | > > as numbertheory (big chunk of _Cranks_). | > > | > > thus: | > > I like Dudley's books, not particularly _Cranks_, but he misses the | > > boat | > > in the second paragraph, because he emphasizes mere arithmetic *and* | > > the subjects that are not quite *mathematica*, or *quadrivium*, and | > > this is the self-same problem of all primary or "elementary" ed. in | > > math, | > > a sort of glorification of Euclid's encyclopedia, addended to the | > > trivium (or, | > > the three Rs .-) http://www.ams.org/notices/201005/rtx100500608p.pdf | > | > Math has many tools. one of them are the analitical methods. They are | > completly useless in each job. But they should be presented to students. | > > | > > thus: maybe, if they stopped listening to alt.deism, | > > they'd start funding you, instead; either way, | > > definitely a New Age soundtrack a.k.a. Muzak TM. | > >> "Listening"?... http://en.wookiepoopya.org/wiki/Synesthesia | > > | > > thus: Hawking's got a new set of fairy tales?... well, | > > he's a part of the Trinity on STreKtheNGeneratioN, so, | > > He can do that! | > > | > > thus: Liebniz's *vis viva* is half of mvv; | > > compare to Galileo's linear ideal, but | > > don't try to disprove his relativity, | > > til you've gotten off of the boat! | > > | > > --les ducs d'oil! | > > http://wlym.com | > > | > > --BP's next bailout of Wall St. and "the City" | > > (of London, gated community & financial district), or | > > the last, if nothing is left of the USA. | > > http://tarpley.net/online-books/against-oligarchy/ | > > http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/ | > > http://tarpley.net/world-crisis-radio/ | > | > But what is your opinion on the evidences collected by A.G. Kelly: | > | http://www.worldnpa.org/pdf/ebooks/Kelly%20-%20New%20Theory%20of%20the%20Behavior%20of%20Light.pdf | > | > All todays measurements are in agreement with the Stokes aether where the | > plasma rotate locally with the Sun. | > S* | > | > | Interesting paper Szczepan. I don't quite get "light moves with the earth's | gravitational field" yet, but it's certainly very interesting. I did read | the later paper where he did rotate the solenoid and that was very | informative as well. | Regards, | Vince | Misleading rather than informative. For example, the four mirror Sagnac diagram is really like this: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/Sagnac.gif To claim one ray arrives before the other is abject nonsense. A meets B before B meets A is lunacy. One ray travels faster than the other but travels a greater distance: http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/Sagnac/Sagnac1.GIF
From: Szczepan Bia�ek on 26 Jul 2010 05:15
"Vince Morgan" <vinhar(a)TAKEOUToptusnet.com.au> wrote news:4c4ccee4$0$25356$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > > "Szczepan Bialek" <sz.bialek(a)wp.pl> wrote in message > news:4c4c7619$0$17085$65785112(a)news.neostrada.pl... >> >> >> But what is your opinion on the evidences collected by A.G. Kelly: >> > http://www.worldnpa.org/pdf/ebooks/Kelly%20-%20New%20Theory%20of%20the%20Behavior%20of%20Light.pdf >> >> All todays measurements are in agreement with the Stokes aether where the >> plasma rotate locally with the Sun. >> > Interesting paper Szczepan. I don't quite get "light moves with the > earth's > gravitational field" yet, Me too. But the collection is universal. The same evidences means quite oppsite for Andro than for Kelly. Who is right? >but it's certainly very interesting. I did read > the later paper where he did rotate the solenoid and that was very > informative as well. Is it avilable on line? S* |