From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-06-13 22:59:51 +0100, Ian McCall said:

> On 2010-06-13 18:26:52 +0100,
> real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk (D.M. Procida) said:
>
>>
>> Quit Pages, find the font files, and move them to your Desktop. Restart
>> Pages. It will complain, but might give you a chance to offer
>> subtitutes.
>
> Done - worked fine. Drastic but you're right, if nothing else is working...
>
>
>> Or, you could learn to like the typeface.
>
> Personally I like it - I was using in an ad I'd recreated for someone
> (am doing the programme for a local carnival, text was wrong in a
> non-editable PDF original so I recreated the look using editable text
> and some graphics). Thing is that apparently the printer couldn't embed
> Helvetica Neue, where 'the printer' is a print shop not a desktop
> thingy. I just needed something that was embeddable in a PDF so this
> print shop could use it.

I thought OS X tended to embed every font not in the Acrobat base set
(Courier, Times, Helvetica, Symbol)?

Perhaps your copy of Helvetica Neue is flagged as not embeddable?

I appear to have two in /System/Library/Fonts - the older version's a
dfont and the newer one's a ttc - but both have "Preview & Print
embedding allowed" embedding rights.

--
Chris

From: Daniel Cohen on
Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> wrote:

> On 2010-06-13 16:16:43 +0100, Martin S Taylor
> <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> said:
>
> > D.M. Procida wrote >>> I need to search and replace all instances of a
> >particular font >>> (Helvetica Nue) with some other font (as yet
> >unchosen, but as similar >>> as possible and able to be embedded) within
> >a Pages 09 doc. >>> >>> Any way to do that? >> >> What does Pages do when
> >opening a doc with a missing font? If it does >> sensible things, try
> >disabling Helvetica Neue via FontBook. > > Can you use Styles to help you
> >out?
> >
> > I don't think so. I thought of that and had a quick look. If every
> > instance of Helvetica Neu is in the same character style, then yes, but
> > if not I don't think there's any way to do it other than what Chris
> > suggested.
>
> ...which unfortunately FontBook won't let me do - it won't let me
> disable it for some reason.

There was a vaguely similar issue raised in another newsgroup. I haven't
checked the procedure myself, but here's the post in case it helps.

In article <hv16bd$gmr$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> The part that wasn't immediately obvious is how to pre-define
> a style that is green so that it appears in that menu.

I figured it out, but it appears to be document specific; however, you
can
import styles from a saved document.

That said, here's how to do it:

First create the style in the document. In this case, choose any text
and
make it green, and select only the green text. Secondly, in the View
menu,
choose "Show Styles drawer". Look for Character Styles in the drawer,
and
click on the disclosure triangle next to "None"; you will have to click
on
"None" first if there's no disclosure triangle next to it. Choose
"Create
New Character Style from selection"; a sheet will appear.

Name the style. In this case, "Green" would be an appropriate name.
Click
the disclosure triangle labeled "Include all character atributes"; the
label will change to "Include these character attributes". Click
"Deselect
All", then click the Color checkbox. Finally, click OK.

After all that, save the document to be used as a styles library.

To import styles from a Pages document:
1. Choose Format > Import Styles.

2. Select the document that contains the styles you want to import,
and
then click Open.

3. Select the styles you want to import in the dialog. Hold down the
Command key as you click the style names to select multiple styles, or
click Select All.

4. To replace styles in your document that have the same name as the
styles you are importing, select "Replace duplicates."
Note that replacing a style will affect any text that uses this style.
Replacing a style also changes the style of text in locked objects, but
the
text retains its original appearance.

If an imported style has the same name as a style in the open document
and
you do not select "Replace duplicates," a number is appended to the name
of
the imported style. For example, if you import a style called Body to a
document that already contains a Body style, the imported style will be
named Body 2.

5. Click OK.

You can make imported paragraph styles available by clicking the
Paragraph
Style pop-up menu in the format bar and in the Styles drawer of your
document. Imported character and list styles will be available in the
Styles drawer.

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From: eastender on
In article <87l2oqFhsrU2(a)mid.individual.net>,
Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> wrote:


> Yep, I'm used to being able to do this kind of thing but never tried in
> Pages. I don't have Word on the Mac and not sure what it would have
> done to a Pages 09 page layout document anyway.

I've got Pages and Word - happy to test it for you. I've imported and
exported Excel and Word files into Numbers and Pages and back out before
with no mishap but done this only for two things - to get out of Word
crashing and to use the chart features in Numbers.

E.
From: Pd on
Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> wrote:

> > Or, you could learn to like the typeface.
>
> Personally I like it - I was using in an ad I'd recreated for someone
> (am doing the programme for a local carnival, text was wrong in a
> non-editable PDF original so I recreated the look using editable text
> and some graphics). Thing is that apparently the printer couldn't embed
> Helvetica Neue, where 'the printer' is a print shop not a desktop
> thingy. I just needed something that was embeddable in a PDF so this
> print shop could use it.

Whenever I get that response from a client's printshop, I render the
whole thing and send them a 300dpi max quality jpeg.

I've had 'printshops' that can only handle MS Publisher or jpegs, didn't
know what to do with PDFs and had never heard of tiff. They tend to be
secretarial services who have expanded what they offer, because they've
bought a colour laser printer.

--
Pd
From: Woody on
Pd <peterd.news(a)gmail.invalid> wrote:

> Ian McCall <ian(a)eruvia.org> wrote:
>
> > > Or, you could learn to like the typeface.
> >
> > Personally I like it - I was using in an ad I'd recreated for someone
> > (am doing the programme for a local carnival, text was wrong in a
> > non-editable PDF original so I recreated the look using editable text
> > and some graphics). Thing is that apparently the printer couldn't embed
> > Helvetica Neue, where 'the printer' is a print shop not a desktop
> > thingy. I just needed something that was embeddable in a PDF so this
> > print shop could use it.
>
> Whenever I get that response from a client's printshop, I render the
> whole thing and send them a 300dpi max quality jpeg.
>
> I've had 'printshops' that can only handle MS Publisher or jpegs, didn't
> know what to do with PDFs and had never heard of tiff. They tend to be
> secretarial services who have expanded what they offer, because they've
> bought a colour laser printer.

We had a place when we had to get business cards done in a hurry, we
sent them the image as a jpg, they got back to us with a word template,
asking if we could make a 10 image template in that, then complained it
didn't work and were we using a later version of word?
we only used them as we were in a hurry, and wont again!

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