Security Update for Outlook Express released 11 May 2010
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From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 13 May 2010 15:19 Windows Update always /assumes/ you'll be ready, willing & able to reboot after installing an update, if a reboot is in fact required. If you've Approved the install (or download & install) of an update, you've implicitly told Windows Update that you'll be ready, willing & able to reboot after installing the update. spamlet wrote: > This is all missing the point that Windows tells you that you can go on > working while the update is being performed: it does not say 'oh but you > mustn't use x y or z.' > > S > > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:uwT0DLs8KHA.4648(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, >>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. >> >> You might add IE to that list. >> >> NB: If it's a Security Update for Windows, chances are a reboot will be >> required. >> >> >> Bob Lucas wrote: >>> Were OE or Windows Live Mail open, when I installed KB978542 on >>> the laptop? - Not sure, so the answer is a definite Maybe. >>> >>> I am pretty sure that OE and WLMail were not open on the desktop, >>> so you have probably identified a likely cause. >>> >>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, >>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. I will also >>> close IE8, if it doesn't prevent the Windows Update from >>> installing. >>> >>> >>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:eq6pF5h8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>> Was OE or Wal-Mail open when you installed KB978542 on the >>>> laptop? >>>> >>>> Bob Lucas wrote: >>>>> There is a very easy way to prevent it from asking repeatedly >>>>> for >>>>> a re-start. Restart your computer !! >>>>> >>>>> However, this month's Critical Updates has raised an >>>>> interesting >>>>> issue. The package included the Windows Malicious Software >>>>> Removal Tool - May 2010 (KB890830) and the Security Update for >>>>> Windows XP (KB978542). There were no other items. >>>>> >>>>> I have two Win XP (SP3) computers (a desktop and a laptop). I >>>>> allowed Windows Update to download and install both items. >>>>> The >>>>> laptop prompted for a restart. The desktop computer did not. >>>>> I >>>>> wonder why. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>> news:uwkAHPe8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Cheers: >>>>>> >>>>>> Now all I need is a way to stop it telling me I need to >>>>>> restart >>>>>> my computer every 5 minutes! >>>>>> ;-) >>>>>> >>>>>> S >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "Richard in AZ" <me(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:%23JIOIEe8KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> It was part of the last automatic windows update package >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:eO7ro2c8KHA.1560(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> And is this in with our automatic updates or do we have to >>>>>>>> get it ourselves? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:Ob%238aCX8KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> [crossposted to OE General & OE6 newsgroups as an FYI] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> MS10-030: Vulnerability in Outlook Express...could allow >>>>>>>>> remote code execution: >>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978542
From: Tom Willett on 13 May 2010 15:55 You are dealing with another hooplehead. "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23fMJXGt8KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... : Windows Update always /assumes/ you'll be ready, willing & able to reboot : after installing an update, if a reboot is in fact required. : : If you've Approved the install (or download & install) of an update, you've : implicitly told Windows Update that you'll be ready, willing & able to : reboot after installing the update. : : : spamlet wrote: : > This is all missing the point that Windows tells you that you can go on : > working while the update is being performed: it does not say 'oh but you : > mustn't use x y or z.' : > : > S : > : > : > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message : > news:uwT0DLs8KHA.4648(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... : >>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, : >>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. : >> : >> You might add IE to that list. : >> : >> NB: If it's a Security Update for Windows, chances are a reboot will be : >> required. : >> : >> : >> Bob Lucas wrote: : >>> Were OE or Windows Live Mail open, when I installed KB978542 on : >>> the laptop? - Not sure, so the answer is a definite Maybe. : >>> : >>> I am pretty sure that OE and WLMail were not open on the desktop, : >>> so you have probably identified a likely cause. : >>> : >>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, : >>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. I will also : >>> close IE8, if it doesn't prevent the Windows Update from : >>> installing. : >>> : >>> : >>> : >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message : >>> news:eq6pF5h8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... : >>>> Was OE or Wal-Mail open when you installed KB978542 on the : >>>> laptop? : >>>> : >>>> Bob Lucas wrote: : >>>>> There is a very easy way to prevent it from asking repeatedly : >>>>> for : >>>>> a re-start. Restart your computer !! : >>>>> : >>>>> However, this month's Critical Updates has raised an : >>>>> interesting : >>>>> issue. The package included the Windows Malicious Software : >>>>> Removal Tool - May 2010 (KB890830) and the Security Update for : >>>>> Windows XP (KB978542). There were no other items. : >>>>> : >>>>> I have two Win XP (SP3) computers (a desktop and a laptop). I : >>>>> allowed Windows Update to download and install both items. : >>>>> The : >>>>> laptop prompted for a restart. The desktop computer did not. : >>>>> I : >>>>> wonder why. : >>>>> : >>>>> : >>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message : >>>>> news:uwkAHPe8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... : >>>>>> Cheers: : >>>>>> : >>>>>> Now all I need is a way to stop it telling me I need to : >>>>>> restart : >>>>>> my computer every 5 minutes! : >>>>>> ;-) : >>>>>> : >>>>>> S : >>>>>> : >>>>>> : >>>>>> "Richard in AZ" <me(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message : >>>>>> news:%23JIOIEe8KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... : >>>>>>> It was part of the last automatic windows update package : >>>>>>> : >>>>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message : >>>>>>> news:eO7ro2c8KHA.1560(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... : >>>>>>>> And is this in with our automatic updates or do we have to : >>>>>>>> get it ourselves? : >>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>> S : >>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message : >>>>>>>> news:Ob%238aCX8KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... : >>>>>>>>> [crossposted to OE General & OE6 newsgroups as an FYI] : >>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>> MS10-030: Vulnerability in Outlook Express...could allow : >>>>>>>>> remote code execution: : >>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978542 :
From: spamlet on 13 May 2010 16:13 By which you mean anyone dumb enough to believe the pointless and misleading pop up information provided by MS. MS clearly does not assume anything of the sort or it would not need any pop ups at all. Seems I'm dealing with trolls after all. S "Tom Willett" <tom(a)youreadaisyifyoudo.com> wrote in message news:%23uowcZt8KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > You are dealing with another hooplehead. > > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:%23fMJXGt8KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > : Windows Update always /assumes/ you'll be ready, willing & able to > reboot > : after installing an update, if a reboot is in fact required. > : > : If you've Approved the install (or download & install) of an update, > you've > : implicitly told Windows Update that you'll be ready, willing & able to > : reboot after installing the update. > : > : > : spamlet wrote: > : > This is all missing the point that Windows tells you that you can go > on > : > working while the update is being performed: it does not say 'oh but > you > : > mustn't use x y or z.' > : > > : > S > : > > : > > : > "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > : > news:uwT0DLs8KHA.4648(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > : >>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, > : >>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. > : >> > : >> You might add IE to that list. > : >> > : >> NB: If it's a Security Update for Windows, chances are a reboot will > be > : >> required. > : >> > : >> > : >> Bob Lucas wrote: > : >>> Were OE or Windows Live Mail open, when I installed KB978542 on > : >>> the laptop? - Not sure, so the answer is a definite Maybe. > : >>> > : >>> I am pretty sure that OE and WLMail were not open on the desktop, > : >>> so you have probably identified a likely cause. > : >>> > : >>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, > : >>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. I will also > : >>> close IE8, if it doesn't prevent the Windows Update from > : >>> installing. > : >>> > : >>> > : >>> > : >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > : >>> news:eq6pF5h8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > : >>>> Was OE or Wal-Mail open when you installed KB978542 on the > : >>>> laptop? > : >>>> > : >>>> Bob Lucas wrote: > : >>>>> There is a very easy way to prevent it from asking repeatedly > : >>>>> for > : >>>>> a re-start. Restart your computer !! > : >>>>> > : >>>>> However, this month's Critical Updates has raised an > : >>>>> interesting > : >>>>> issue. The package included the Windows Malicious Software > : >>>>> Removal Tool - May 2010 (KB890830) and the Security Update for > : >>>>> Windows XP (KB978542). There were no other items. > : >>>>> > : >>>>> I have two Win XP (SP3) computers (a desktop and a laptop). I > : >>>>> allowed Windows Update to download and install both items. > : >>>>> The > : >>>>> laptop prompted for a restart. The desktop computer did not. > : >>>>> I > : >>>>> wonder why. > : >>>>> > : >>>>> > : >>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > : >>>>> news:uwkAHPe8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > : >>>>>> Cheers: > : >>>>>> > : >>>>>> Now all I need is a way to stop it telling me I need to > : >>>>>> restart > : >>>>>> my computer every 5 minutes! > : >>>>>> ;-) > : >>>>>> > : >>>>>> S > : >>>>>> > : >>>>>> > : >>>>>> "Richard in AZ" <me(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message > : >>>>>> news:%23JIOIEe8KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > : >>>>>>> It was part of the last automatic windows update package > : >>>>>>> > : >>>>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message > : >>>>>>> news:eO7ro2c8KHA.1560(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > : >>>>>>>> And is this in with our automatic updates or do we have to > : >>>>>>>> get it ourselves? > : >>>>>>>> > : >>>>>>>> S > : >>>>>>>> > : >>>>>>>> > : >>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > : >>>>>>>> news:Ob%238aCX8KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > : >>>>>>>>> [crossposted to OE General & OE6 newsgroups as an FYI] > : >>>>>>>>> > : >>>>>>>>> MS10-030: Vulnerability in Outlook Express...could allow > : >>>>>>>>> remote code execution: > : >>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978542 > : > >
From: PA Bear [MS MVP] on 13 May 2010 21:49 That hooplehead is very well known in OE & IE newsgroups. Unfortunately, (s)he's also one which I've continue to indulge for some reason or other. I must be entering my dotage. PS: In some cases, 01 October can't come soon enough! cf. http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx Tom Willett wrote: > You are dealing with another hooplehead. > >> Windows Update always /assumes/ you'll be ready, willing & able to reboot >> after installing an update, if a reboot is in fact required. >> >> If you've Approved the install (or download & install) of an update, >> you've >> implicitly told Windows Update that you'll be ready, willing & able to >> reboot after installing the update. >> >> >> spamlet wrote: >>> This is all missing the point that Windows tells you that you can go on >>> working while the update is being performed: it does not say 'oh but you >>> mustn't use x y or z.' >>> >>> S >>> >>> >>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>> news:uwT0DLs8KHA.4648(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, >>>>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. >>>> >>>> You might add IE to that list. >>>> >>>> NB: If it's a Security Update for Windows, chances are a reboot will be >>>> required. >>>> >>>> >>>> Bob Lucas wrote: >>>>> Were OE or Windows Live Mail open, when I installed KB978542 on >>>>> the laptop? - Not sure, so the answer is a definite Maybe. >>>>> >>>>> I am pretty sure that OE and WLMail were not open on the desktop, >>>>> so you have probably identified a likely cause. >>>>> >>>>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, >>>>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. I will also >>>>> close IE8, if it doesn't prevent the Windows Update from >>>>> installing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:eq6pF5h8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Was OE or Wal-Mail open when you installed KB978542 on the >>>>>> laptop? >>>>>> >>>>>> Bob Lucas wrote: >>>>>>> There is a very easy way to prevent it from asking repeatedly >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> a re-start. Restart your computer !! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> However, this month's Critical Updates has raised an >>>>>>> interesting >>>>>>> issue. The package included the Windows Malicious Software >>>>>>> Removal Tool - May 2010 (KB890830) and the Security Update for >>>>>>> Windows XP (KB978542). There were no other items. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have two Win XP (SP3) computers (a desktop and a laptop). I >>>>>>> allowed Windows Update to download and install both items. >>>>>>> The >>>>>>> laptop prompted for a restart. The desktop computer did not. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> wonder why. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:uwkAHPe8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>> Cheers: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now all I need is a way to stop it telling me I need to >>>>>>>> restart >>>>>>>> my computer every 5 minutes! >>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Richard in AZ" <me(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:%23JIOIEe8KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> It was part of the last automatic windows update package >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:eO7ro2c8KHA.1560(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> And is this in with our automatic updates or do we have to >>>>>>>>>> get it ourselves? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:Ob%238aCX8KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> [crossposted to OE General & OE6 newsgroups as an FYI] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> MS10-030: Vulnerability in Outlook Express...could allow >>>>>>>>>>> remote code execution: >>>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978542
From: spamlet on 13 May 2010 22:06
As it happens, I did see the very great Mott many times; No doubt while you guys were spending all your time arguing the finer points of stereo systems and not actually listening to anything. Enjoy your pointless pop ups, and roll on Oct first, whatever you're planning to bore each other with then. S "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:%23h%232Wfw8KHA.5412(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... > That hooplehead is very well known in OE & IE newsgroups. Unfortunately, > (s)he's also one which I've continue to indulge for some reason or other. > I must be entering my dotage. > > PS: In some cases, 01 October can't come soon enough! cf. > http://www.microsoft.com/communities/newsgroups/default.mspx > > > Tom Willett wrote: >> You are dealing with another hooplehead. >> >>> Windows Update always /assumes/ you'll be ready, willing & able to >>> reboot >>> after installing an update, if a reboot is in fact required. >>> >>> If you've Approved the install (or download & install) of an update, >>> you've >>> implicitly told Windows Update that you'll be ready, willing & able to >>> reboot after installing the update. >>> >>> >>> spamlet wrote: >>>> This is all missing the point that Windows tells you that you can go on >>>> working while the update is being performed: it does not say 'oh but >>>> you >>>> mustn't use x y or z.' >>>> >>>> S >>>> >>>> >>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:uwT0DLs8KHA.4648(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, >>>>>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. >>>>> >>>>> You might add IE to that list. >>>>> >>>>> NB: If it's a Security Update for Windows, chances are a reboot will >>>>> be >>>>> required. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bob Lucas wrote: >>>>>> Were OE or Windows Live Mail open, when I installed KB978542 on >>>>>> the laptop? - Not sure, so the answer is a definite Maybe. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am pretty sure that OE and WLMail were not open on the desktop, >>>>>> so you have probably identified a likely cause. >>>>>> >>>>>> For the future, I will make sure that OE6 and WLMail are closed, >>>>>> before I allow Windows Update to install updates. I will also >>>>>> close IE8, if it doesn't prevent the Windows Update from >>>>>> installing. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:eq6pF5h8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>> Was OE or Wal-Mail open when you installed KB978542 on the >>>>>>> laptop? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bob Lucas wrote: >>>>>>>> There is a very easy way to prevent it from asking repeatedly >>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>> a re-start. Restart your computer !! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, this month's Critical Updates has raised an >>>>>>>> interesting >>>>>>>> issue. The package included the Windows Malicious Software >>>>>>>> Removal Tool - May 2010 (KB890830) and the Security Update for >>>>>>>> Windows XP (KB978542). There were no other items. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have two Win XP (SP3) computers (a desktop and a laptop). I >>>>>>>> allowed Windows Update to download and install both items. >>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>> laptop prompted for a restart. The desktop computer did not. >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> wonder why. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:uwkAHPe8KHA.5900(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>> Cheers: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now all I need is a way to stop it telling me I need to >>>>>>>>> restart >>>>>>>>> my computer every 5 minutes! >>>>>>>>> ;-) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Richard in AZ" <me(a)mailinator.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:%23JIOIEe8KHA.5848(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>> It was part of the last automatic windows update package >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "spamlet" <spam.morespam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:eO7ro2c8KHA.1560(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>> And is this in with our automatic updates or do we have to >>>>>>>>>>> get it ourselves? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> S >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:Ob%238aCX8KHA.5476(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl... >>>>>>>>>>>> [crossposted to OE General & OE6 newsgroups as an FYI] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> MS10-030: Vulnerability in Outlook Express...could allow >>>>>>>>>>>> remote code execution: >>>>>>>>>>>> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/978542 > |