Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?
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From: RayLopez99 on 23 Mar 2010 03:51 Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using commercial antivirus protection? One of the claims of the Linux crowd is that such problems are legion. But talking so some of the people at alt.comp.anti-virus I get the impression such problems are rare. Who is more right? BTW, check out this PDF on AV software: http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report22.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEDInyvV2WgWDzeAWeAjzJKLymkDA It compares 16 commercial programs, and finds Microsoft at #2, catching 60% of all viruses (Avanti is #1 at 70%). And we're taking about all viruses, some of which as so obscure I'm sure you'll never seen one in the wild... RL
From: Peter Köhlmann on 23 Mar 2010 04:20 RayLopez99 wrote: > Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus > (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using > commercial antivirus protection? Yes > One of the claims of the Linux crowd is that such problems are > legion. But talking so some of the people at alt.comp.anti-virus I > get the impression such problems are rare. > > Who is more right? So the estimate that around 30% of all windows computers are infected is "rare problems" > > BTW, check out this PDF on AV software: > http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.av- comparatives.org/images/stories/test/ondret/avc_report22.pdf&usg=AFQjCNEDInyvV2WgWDzeAWeAjzJKLymkDA > > It compares 16 commercial programs, and finds Microsoft at #2, > catching 60% of all viruses (Avanti is #1 at 70%). And we're taking > about all viruses, some of which as so obscure I'm sure you'll never > seen one in the wild... > In short, you brag about those new viruses found by AV software. And then gallantly forget about those 31% to 86% *not* found. That you are incredibly stupid has been proven time and again, the last instances were your imbecile claims of "open source" But this again shows that you are a lot dumber than dirt And your problem obviously is that you are not just /acting/ dumb. You *are* dumb. Incredibly dumb -- I say you need to visit Clues 'R' Us. They are having a special on slightly used clues.
From: trigonometry1972 on 23 Mar 2010 04:41 On Mar 23, 12:51 am, RayLopez99 <raylope...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus > (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using > commercial antivirus protection? > > One of the claims of the Linux crowd is that such problems are > legion. But talking so some of the people at alt.comp.anti-virus I > get the impression such problems are rare. > > Who is more right? > > BTW, check out this PDF on AV software:http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.av-comparatives.org/image... > > It compares 16 commercial programs, and finds Microsoft at #2, > catching 60% of all viruses (Avanti is #1 at 70%). And we're taking > about all viruses, some of which as so obscure I'm sure you'll never > seen one in the wild... > > RL What ever you do don't get Panda AV software, IMO.
From: trigonometry1972 on 23 Mar 2010 04:48 On Mar 23, 12:51 am, RayLopez99 <raylope...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus > (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using > commercial antivirus protection? > > One of the claims of the Linux crowd is that such problems are > legion. But talking so some of the people at alt.comp.anti-virus I > get the impression such problems are rare. > > Who is more right? > > BTW, check out this PDF on AV software:http://www.google.com/url?sa=D&q=http://www.av-comparatives.org/image... > > It compares 16 commercial programs, and finds Microsoft at #2, > catching 60% of all viruses (Avanti is #1 at 70%). And we're taking > about all viruses, some of which as so obscure I'm sure you'll never > seen one in the wild... > > RL Pretty dismal results on the part of the payware AV programs. ~50 to 70 percent and that is being generous.
From: peterwn on 23 Mar 2010 05:11
On Mar 23, 8:51 pm, RayLopez99 <raylope...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus > (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using > commercial antivirus protection? > Yes. I had to clean up a Windows laptop last year despite things being kept up to date and AV installed. The AV was bloody hopeless at setecting it despite being kept up to date. |