Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?
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From: Stephen Wolstenholme on 23 Mar 2010 09:45 On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99 <raylopez88(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus >(including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using >commercial antivirus protection? > I have used Windows since version 2 and never had a virus problem of any kind. I have used many different antivirus products over the years but I've no idea how well any work as I have not had a problem in the first place. My currently installed product is MSE because it runs passively, keeps itself up to date, uses minimal resources and never disturbs me with stupid messages. Steve -- Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com Neural network applications, help and support.
From: Moshe on 23 Mar 2010 11:28 On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99 wrote: > Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus > (including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using > commercial antivirus protection? It happens all the time. Usually brought in from outside sources and when the person bypasses the checking. It's like everything else in the world, you can't prevent an idiot from circumventing the tools put in place to protect him.
From: Leythos on 23 Mar 2010 13:30 In article <1jghq5ps5acdisiv22ij6c8le0dpfps86p(a)4ax.com>, steve(a)tropheus.demon.co.uk says... > > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99 > <raylopez88(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus > >(including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using > >commercial antivirus protection? > > > > I have used Windows since version 2 and never had a virus problem of > any kind. > > I have used many different antivirus products over the years but I've > no idea how well any work as I have not had a problem in the first > place. My currently installed product is MSE because it runs > passively, keeps itself up to date, uses minimal resources and never > disturbs me with stupid messages. How do you know if you've not checked your system with other anti- malware scanners? -- You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that. Trust yourself. spam999free(a)rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)
From: Stephen Wolstenholme on 23 Mar 2010 13:48 On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:30:57 -0400, Leythos <spam999free(a)rrohio.com> wrote: >In article <1jghq5ps5acdisiv22ij6c8le0dpfps86p(a)4ax.com>, >steve(a)tropheus.demon.co.uk says... >> >> On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99 >> <raylopez88(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >Seriously, has anybody seen--or even heard--of a serious virus >> >(including rootkit or malware) problem in Windows when using >> >commercial antivirus protection? >> > >> >> I have used Windows since version 2 and never had a virus problem of >> any kind. >> >> I have used many different antivirus products over the years but I've >> no idea how well any work as I have not had a problem in the first >> place. My currently installed product is MSE because it runs >> passively, keeps itself up to date, uses minimal resources and never >> disturbs me with stupid messages. > >How do you know if you've not checked your system with other anti- >malware scanners? As I said before, I have used many different scanners. Steve -- Neural Planner Software Ltd www.NPSL1.com Neural network applications, help and support.
From: FromTheRafters on 23 Mar 2010 17:22
"Branimir Maksimovic" <bmaxa(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:20100323095210.57062146(a)maxa... > On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 00:51:55 -0700 (PDT) > RayLopez99 <raylopez88(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> It compares 16 commercial programs, and finds Microsoft at #2, >> catching 60% of all viruses (Avanti is #1 at 70%). And we're taking >> about all viruses, some of which as so obscure I'm sure you'll never >> seen one in the wild... > > Hm, download http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads, > make virtual machine file, install os. > Make backup of file. > Surf the interent in virtual machine. > After serf, erase virtual machine file. Restore from backup. > Rinse and repeat. No need for AV at all ;) This neglects "in session" malware, and the possibility of detection and escape from emulated environments. This is an example of "recovery" (actually a restore) - AV is (was) primarily a "prevention" scheme. |