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From: ToolPackinMama on 24 Mar 2010 19:34
On 3/24/2010 5:23 PM, SteveH wrote:
> Leythos wrote:
>>
>> You mean like windows updates between 3AM and 4AM?
>>
> Hell would freeze over before I allowed MS to install updates on my PC in my
> absence.

I am with you on that.
From: ToolPackinMama on 24 Mar 2010 19:40
On 3/24/2010 5:31 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:

> Electronics (and motors in particular) consume more energy when they are
> first energized.

More... for the whole rest of their lives? Or more for the rest of the
day? Or more... what do you mean by "more"?

> As for wear and tear, much engineering has been done to mitigate any
> increases in failure rate due to the thermal effects of duty cycles in
> electrical/electronic equipment.

I'm sure.

Still..mitigation is only a step in the
> right direction, not a cure.

I still am turning my computer off when I am not using it. If not using
it actually reduces the life-cycle of the components (by whatever
means), then I guess I can live with that.

I also am going to continue to urge people to turn theirs off when not
in use, and I urge you all to do the same - but NOT because it will
extend the life of the components.

I'm not the one who said it would, anyway, so I don't mind conceding
that point.


From: ToolPackinMama on 25 Mar 2010 00:59
On 3/24/2010 8:19 PM, Leythos wrote:

> Do you actually know the power level difference when all of the power
> saving features, except suspend/hibernation, are used vs. turning the
> computer completely off?
>

No, do you?
From: ToolPackinMama on 25 Mar 2010 01:05
On 3/24/2010 8:22 PM, FromTheRafters wrote:
> "RayLopez99"<raylopez88(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2a795f5f-8a21-42ed-9a37-5458920a9af0(a)k13g2000yqe.googlegroups.com...
>
> Same with computer viruses. In our modern era John, who is getting
> infected? Nobody SAVE zero-day attack victims.

Well, huge numbers of PCs are infected. In my experience it's more
common for a PC to be infected than not. Most of them have anti-virus
installed and supposedly working at the time they become infected. Does
anybody here believe that what I have just said isn't true?

Blah blah blah in an ideal world all PCs are properly protected and
updated and used responsibly blah blah blah. But that is not the world
I live in.


From: Wolf K on 25 Mar 2010 10:43
Dustin Cook wrote:
> "FromTheRafters" <erratic(a)nomail.afraid.org> wrote in news:hoel86$c6q$1
[...]
>> and the life expectancy of the bulb
>> is reduced with multiple starts (though I don't know exactly why).
>
> If it's a filament based bulb, it's due to the thermals of the wire
> heating and rapidly cooling. It's why on the incandescent house lights in
> the states, if you hit the light switch rapidly for a little while you
> might burn a bulb out. hehehe.. Filament will only take so much.
>
>
>


AIUI, rapid heating and cooling causes mechanical stress, which fatigues
the filament, causing a local high resistance spot, which causes temp
high enough to melt teh filament.
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